transplantbillsfan

It's not just Kelce, though. Andy Reid is still calling the plays and they have more weapons now than before. They swapped Hill out for 2 young but established veteran WRs, a young 1st round WR they traded for, a 2nd round rookie WR, and McKinnon and Pacheco at RB.

Holy crap... you were being serious

You do understand the very different situations these players walked into, right? The Chiefs won double digit games and went to the playoffs the 2 years before they drafted Mahomes and then again in his rookie year when he sat the whole season and had the benefit of being groomed under Andy Reid and watching a pro like Alex Smith in front of him. And they had Hill and Kelce from the start for Mahomes. No one is saying Mahomes would suck outside of KC, but coaching, system, and surrounding personnel matter and Allen has always been far behind Mahomes with respect to those things.

First of all, I figured the emoticon would make you realize that what I was saying was tongue in cheek. Really wasn't being totally serious there... not totally. But Allen’s never had 2 sure-fire 1st ballot HOF weapons to throw to along with a well-established mad-scientist offensive play caller and QB guru. And if you want to argue that Daboll was just that at the end of his tenure in WNY, we could point to Allen's historic playoff games last year only to be botched by coaching at the end of the game.

But that was the opposite of the Patriots' model. Still trying to see the connection.

On the one hand, I applaud your post. On the other hand, I think it's sleight of hand. Are 4 4th down conversions your argument for good coaching? Maybe drive 1 with the 4th and 2 on the 50 and the 4th and goal on the 1. But I think that's more analytics. Took players executing more than anything. The other drive they went for it on 4th down twice and converted, they pretty much needed to. They were down late in the game. To me that's not great coaching as much as trusting your players. And there were 2 TDs on 4th downs, not 3. How about a coach who doesn't make absolutely certain that the kicker knows to kick it short? Or a coach who makes sure the defense doesn't leave the best TE in NFL history a wide open seam in the middle of the field when the Chiefs still have a timeout? Those 2 things were pretty clearly just poor coaching decisions.

It is? How 'bout 13 seconds?

Translation: Huh???? Are we having the same conversation??? The guy I responded to said Mahomes had fewer weapons this year. I responded...

Ummm... did Mahomes really have fewer weapons than last season? I don't think last season the Chiefs had JuJu, MVS, Kadarius Toney, Isaiah Pacheco, or Skyy Moore. I get that Hill was an Elite HOF weapon, but KC found a way to add a handful of more than competent players to replace him. Ever consider the benefit of 3 or 4 more good players over a single Elite player? And on a side note, maybe it should be an indictment on Mahomes that he could only win 1 Super Bowl as clearly the best QB in the NFL with a 1st ballot HOFer at both TE and WR1.

Thank you. I honestly forgot about that Chad Henne drive. That right--much like Reid's success with Alex Smith at QB before Mahomes--is why I get so frustrated at Allen’s coaching situation, which has just been very good, not great.

Neither were the Colts Ummm... you're criticizing Josh for the 2 UCL injuries???? Are you being funny here?

And that's the incredibly frustrating aspect of all of this. Although right now I think the problem is more the OL with Josh running for his life or getting elbow injuries from blind side strip sacks. Notice how Kansas City actually chose to part ways with its most dynamic weapon in the offseason in favor of building the OL.

Mahomes was obviously going to win it. The thing that might wind up breaking our hearts 15 years from now is the "What if" scenarios. What if Buffalo just drafted Mahomes? What if it was Buffalo that got Andy Reid as the Head Coach? What if Josh Allen didn't get the UCL injury vs the Jets? What if Von Miller didn't get injured? Etc. I still firmly believe in Allen as one of the best QBs in the NFL and the best in terms of sheer physical talent. Problem is, as good as our Head Coach and GM are (and I believe they're very good), they may pale in comparison to what Kansas City has. It's early in their careers, realistically, but I really thought this would be Brady vs. Manning... and I thought eventually Allen would be Brady. I still think he can be that. But at the moment with the pieces around him he might end up being more Roethlisberger. And no, for the idiot who started the thread saying Allen equals Rivers... I just don’t see that happening with a healthy Josh Allen for another 10 plus years.

Why are we so far behind Kansas City and Cincinnati? If you think we are this year, you surely did last year, too, right? Afterall, we lost to Kansas City who lost convincingly to Cincinnati. Right? Sorry. Injuries and circumstances were too much for this team to overcome. Hobbled Poyer. No Von. No Hyde. No Daquan Jones--a loss against Cincy many aren't talking about. A 1 armed Jordan Phillips. 3rd string onto 4th string Safety. Yes. I realize there are no offensive players there. Offense is where I expect the upgrades this offseason... namely OL and WR. But no, we aren't that far behind either of those teams. Buffalo was dealt a horrible hand this year. Remember, we still have Josh Allen.

They got Pacheko in the 7th round???? Criminal.

Ummmm... between the Russell Wilson trade and now this do the Broncos have ANY draft picks for the foreseeable future?

You don't think the teammate dying and being brought back to life less than 3 weeks earlier had any correlation to the playoff loss? You don't think tragedy compounds on tragedy compounds on tragedy and takes a toll on a person?

I called for it in the offseason

It wasn't Von. It was Damar. Once that happened the Super Bowl hopes went from fairly strong to hanging by a thread.

Stop bifurcating. You know that's not what I said or meant. You're being ridiculous. But I don't expect anything less from you.

I'd be rooting for the Eagles except earth's year a friend of mine said it would be either the Vikings or Eagles who won the Super Bowl so I took the field vs those 2 teams. I win I get a case of beer. He wins he gets 2 cases. Plus bragging rights, of course. Regardless, I hope the Eagles win if they get there

Being a zombie in a 9-5 shift is often private and secluded in many ways. You're trying to pretend as though all the WNY events had no impact on WNYers simply because WNY didn't shut down. That's just stupid of you. And to say "yeah, but they still did their jobs!!!" is blatant ignorance on your part. A shop clerk or teacher or construction worker can usually get away with being a zombie on the job. Football players have a different level of opposition. None of this is to dismiss other jobs. It's more to dismiss the opinions of people who work other jobs and pretend they know how everyone in every other job should be and feel.

I originally agreed with you, but then @TheBrownBear convinced how traumatic the Hamlin events would be for the coaching staff as well as the team.. I honestly wasn't even considering the impact on the coaching staff, but in many ways I can see the impact being at least as great... after all, Frazier was a DB who probably spent a lot of time with Hamlin...

Then how can you possibly argue that the Bengals had more emotional stamina if they didn't suffer the same emotional trauma?