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Josh Allen is still amazing. Dalton Kincaid is going to be amazing.

Ya know I watched this game a day late after reading all these sky is falling threads. Allen, Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Torrence looked good. Our D will be fine. Need OT depth... but might be fine with what we have. Got blown out after 2 bad plays and a ton of uncharacteristic penalties. Bring on the regular season, please.

Wait... is Pooona Ford #98???? Are you sure you meant to say he had a bad night?

Isn't he 900 years old?

Thanks... sounds like he's been having a good camp. WR is seriously a position to watch in preseason with Isabella/Shorter/Davis/Harty/Sherfield.

Why is that? Everyone is going nuts over Gabe's camp. Sherfield by all reports has also been really good. If I had my choice, I would sign Gabe to a long term deal right now somewhere in the $10-$15m range. I bet his agent is seeking north of that, though. I know you enjoy trolling me, which is fine. That said, Sherfield isn't a scrub. Harty isn't a scrub. And dare I bring up the fact that Isabella has been impressing a lot of people in camp... and not just as a KR/PR...? Keep Gabe if we can. But Gabe isn't one of the irreplaceable pieces of this offense.

Yes, 100%. I'm in one of 2 boats: 1) Sign him to an extension NOW!!!! He is only going to get more expensive. Keep in mind it's not just about how he plays this year, it's also about the WR market. The WR market seems to be trending up, so even if he has another year resembling last year, I think he's going to be looking at a contract north of $15m per year next offseason. If we lock him up now, we could potentially get him for less. OR 2) Trade him for assets that will help us to draft a true #1B WR opposite Diggs in next year's draft. Everyone knows I started a thread about this that seems unpopular, but from all reports in camp, it looks like we'll have more weapons than we had last year even without Davis. And with the shift in our offense to more 12 personnel with Kincaid and Knox and how both are looking in camp, I don't know that putting Sherfield opposite Diggs with Knox, Kincaid and Cook as our other weapons is that huge a downgrade. Plus we'd have plenty of draft capital for cost-controlled, inexpensive talent. And yes, I realize some are pointing out the compensatory pick thing, but that also requires that you let some of your other UFAs walk and you don't sign as many as you let walk. It requires you basically sit on your hands and choose not to upgrade your team or maintain what you have in order to acquire a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

Brown practiced. Why is this still a thing?

You seem like a sad, angry person. Maybe you're resentful of something in your life, but to make these 2 completely empty, meaningless posts on the same page of the same thread within just a few hours of each other really isn't a good look. Now... it's Saturday night. If you're drunk, it's understandable

Harty wasn't a flier for Beane. He's guaranteed,making this team as a contributing WR and we didn't give him a $10m contract to be a returner.

C'mon now... this is such a troll post... even for you, which is saying something. I've had waaaaaaaaayyyyyy worse takes than this

The comp pick thing is a valid point, but a lot of other factors would come into play with that, including how many FAs we sign/lose. You're presenting this as though if we let him sign with another team we'll automatically be given a 3rd or 4th round comp pick. We're still in wait and see mode regarding the 3rd round comp pick we'll supposedly get for Edmunds.

To those wondering if it's all ADOT to blame for Gabe's low catch %, watch this beginning at about 7:20. Going all the way back to UCF Gabe was 50%-60% in terms of catch % on passes below 10 yards.

Joe Marino covered this in one of his Locked On Bills podcasts this week and went all the way back to Gabe's college days. That issue of relatively low catch rate is still prevalent in the short to intermediate range as well.

If Gabe isn't an ideal #2 I would assume you would be against resigning him, right? His new contract is likely going to pay him at least like a high-tier #2 WR in the NFL, if not a low-tier #1. Is the rest of our WR corps really a bunch of JAGs? Is Gabe really that much better an option as WR than Sherfield/Harty/Shakir? And if he is, is one year of Gabe (since I assume you're against the lucrative extension) better than potentially getting more draft capital for next year's draft to trade up and get what (one would hope & assume) would be an upgrade on Gabe at #2 WR in the 1st round at a cost-controlled price from 2024-2028?

That's the point of trading him. The future. You don't pay Robin. If trading him gives us a 3rd or 4th, that's trade up cash in hand... and we all know Beane loves trading up. We just paid Harty money like he's going to be a decent contributor. Sherfield by all reports--including Josh Allen--is excelling at WR. We've all watched Shakir flash. We just drafted a TE who's essentially going to substitute for a WR most of the time. We (for whatever reason) just signed a former 2nd round pick from 2019 to our roster at WR. And Gabe has 1 year left on his contract but also has value. I will repeat that I don’t think we do trade him, but given all of the above, how bad would it really be to do it, especially if it helps net you a WR opposite Diggs through 2027 under a rookie contract even better than Davis?

I don't think we trade him, but recent events make me wonder. By all reports sounds like Sherfield and Harty are flashing in camp. With Kincaid and Knox we're going to run more 12 personnel than at any point during the Allen era, making WRs more expendable. And then we sign a recent 2nd round WR in Andy Isabella. I realize he's been a bust thus far, but why would Beane bother bringing him in if he thought our WR corps was set? And that's where the guesswork comes into play... I'm sure most view it as Shakir insurance based on his reportedly poor start to camp. I think that'd be financially kinda silly considering Shakir showed some potential in actual NFL games and he's one of only 2 or 3 (if Shorter makes the team) WRs still under contract after 2023. Gabe Davis will get a contract next season likely (as of this moment at least) in the $10-$15 million range, and I think that's actually below (maybe well below) what he'll actually get. We all know Buffalo’s CAP situation and what we're already gonna be paying Diggs since there's no out on his contract for 3 or 4 years. $40+ million (conservatively) a year to 2 WRs? And then there's this from the first few TC practices from Joe B's day 3 report at The Athletic: Davis targeted minimally the last two practices Following the Bills’ second day of practice, starting receiver Gabe Davis was quite candid about some of his physical and mental struggles during the 2022 season, stemming from an early-year high ankle sprain that wound up defining his output. He didn’t take the leap many were hoping for, but he remains very well thought of throughout the building. There’s no doubt Davis looks a lot smoother and more explosive on his routes than from when he was injured, but it hasn’t translated to much production through the early portion of camp. Of those 37 Allen pass attempts over the last two practices, Davis was only targeted in team drills twice. Both targets occurred on Friday, and to Davis’ credit, he brought in both for a shorter reception. Over the same span, Diggs (10), Trent Sherfield (6), Knox (5) and Kincaid (3) were all targeted more often by Allen. It could just be the start of camp and a feeling out process with Allen and Davis, or perhaps it’s a continuation of the lower target share Davis accrued during 2022. Either way, all eyes will be on the now-healthy Davis in a contract year. I know this... we already have a lot of draft capital next year and Beane loves trading up. What do you think Gabe fetches? A 3rd? A 4th? I think we could at least get a 4th for him, which is where he was drafted. Then Big Baller Beane uses all those draft picks to get our next #1 in waiting in next year's draft... Marvin Harrison Jr. anyone????

Ummmm... what??? Dude... he's only eating one meal a day.

Interesting thread. Think I saw the news piece. They even claimed it was "mostly Millenials." I was born in 81 and my wife was born in 82, so by some definitions we're Millenials even though neither of us have the characteristics. We've been married 13 years but together for 18 years. We lived and slept in the same bed all 5 years before we got married. I snore and my wife is a light sleeper. My snoring got worse over the years. I tried Breathe Right strips, anti-snoring mouth guards, throat and tongue exercises, and taping my mouth. They work sporadically and then at some point my wife ends up hitting me because I'm snoring again and I either go to sleep and get hit again and eventually end up on the couch or I lie awake because I don't want to snore. Eventually I got Covid in May of 2022 and my wife slept in our spare room for a week. Then October 2022 I go visit my family in NY and come back and our cat (her baby) was diagnosed with Cancer and since Covid when I go on my annual trip we sleep in separate rooms anyway for a week. Well, that stuck. She wanted the time with our cat (she passed in March) and a month or so later we rescued 4 kittens that were a couple days old that she stayed in the room with to bottle feed. I will say this. I don't think I've ever slept better in our marriage. My wife maybe not so much because of all the cat and kitten issues, but I think this is pretty permanent. Don't know fully how I feel about it yet. There's a (what I generally feel is ridiculous) traditionalist in me that feels the need to adhere to societal norms. One would think I would have gotten over that with our choice not to have kids, but I pushed back with my wife fairly hard on sleeping in separate beds. Now I feel pretty good about it. However, I do think it means you need to make more of an effort as far as your marriage goes. In the end, every marriage is different. Even though I freely admit I don't always take my own advice, do what makes you and your wife happy and don't allow society to dictate that.

Huh? Haven't watched the show. I'm talking about how Mahomes sprinted from the EZ to Allen after throwing a GW TD to embrace him and congratulate him on a great game. That's all I needed to know how great a dude (aka human) Mahomes is. That was rare.

I still think there's a decent chance we get Hopkins, but once Training Camp starts I think that chance drops off a cliff. Just based on how McBeane seems to be, my guess is they would want to make sure he's there for all of Camp to best foster chemistry with Josh and the team... namely Diggs. So... watching this with baited breath for another week or so

Haven't watched the show and probably won't, but in terms of Mahomes, I think the dislike other than what he's done to Buffalo is about the people he surrounds himself with... wife and brother. Not exactly a choice on his part, but still. Personally, I'll always hate Mahomes the player, but what he did after the clock struck 00 after 13 seconds made me realize how good a dude he is.

Live in Hawaii and I surf. Grew up 5 minutes away from Lake Ontario in Webster, NY. Lived there til I was 23. Wish I tried SUPing while I was there. Now I look on those Sweepers with disdain...

Did he miss games because of either of those? I get it. That Pats game injury he needed to not take that hit... yet that's exactly the play that makes him Him. The Concussion threat is the biggest worry to him running. And it's there. But UCL injuries are more severe injuries for a QB and both happened in the pocket. Look around the league and I think you find a ton of severe injuries to QBs happening in the pocket... including concussions... just ask Tua. Josh is human. But he's not a normal human. Not even as far as NFL players are concerned. I think he's already proven that.