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transplantbillsfan

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  1. There are at least an incredibly vocal minority complaining about the offense. It's possible there aren't a lot of them, but the few there are get very vocal and sometimes belligerent about it.
  2. You can name me. You don't have to say "a certain pro Tyrod poster." I was the one who challenged your assertion because it was wrong. You, Thurman, and RF all seem to be under the impression that every time Taylor's under pressure, he breaks the pocket or scrambles. You call visual proof from easy access of Taylor's TD highlights, which show a QB only leaving the pocket 20% of the time when pressured "inadequate information?" If it is, I don't know what to give you. You certainly aren't going to trust me if I go through every single pass of Taylor and count 'em up. I won't waste my time doing that when there's no chance anything will sway you. If you have game pass, go watch every single passing play from Taylor and count them up for yourself. Even if you're looking at those plays with biased eyes, at least you're putting in some effort Then what are we supposed to do here in the meantime?
  3. Soooo... this article includes scrambles, yes. It includes them for all QBs. You and Thurm have the same conclusions, it seems... that this reveals nothing new because we always knew he was a great runner. Why are you latching onto 25% of the "pressured" plays he's referring to? I say 25% because Taylor scrambled 47 times. But there were 188 "pass plays with pressure" that footballoutsiders article refers to. This isn't all about his legs. He stood in the pocket and delivered plenty of passes with pressure around him or coming straight at him. Just go watch his TD highlights and you can pretty easily figure out which ones are the pressure plays and which ones are the non pressure plays. By my count (and please, check for yourself and let me know if I counted wrong and which plays you included), of the 10 relatively obvious "pressure plays" on his passing TDs (since we know from those other sources he has 10 passing TDs under pressure) Taylor only left the pocket twice. Those were the TD pass to Salas in the Jets game and the TD pass to Hunter in the back of the end zone in the Rams game. That means he stood in the pocket and delivered 80% of his TD passes that were under pressure. And saying at those points he just always is "acting on instinct" ignores plays like the TD pass to Goodwin in the 1st Dolphins game with the defender running free straight at him and plowing him to the ground. Or the Steelers game with the pass to Clay where he pump fakes to try to make just enough room to get the ball to Clay before getting tackled. You're right, it's just another thread with people lumped in their camps, which is simply a shame because it makes civil and rational discussion absolutely impossible. It'd be helpful if everyone at least understood what the articles actually said before scurrying to try to fit that square study into their round narrative
  4. *sigh* I'm not missing anything, Thurm. I read it all. Did you read the article? http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016 Today, we are looking at our charting results for quarterbacks and pressure for the 2016 regular season. These are always some of the most cited and noteworthy numbers in Football Outsiders Almanac (the 2017 edition will be available in July!). This data primarily comes from Sports Information Solutions charting, although we also have access to ESPN Stats & Information data and we use that to check against the SIS data. Pressure will always have a subjective element to it, but we feel that comparing the two sources has led to a more accurate measurement. They didn't just "add in scrambles." They factored in only passing plays where the QBs faced pressure. That's different. You said, "I'm worried about Tyrod's pass game, not his run game," when, in fact, these numbers factor in both. And considering how how Taylor's passer rating is under pressure, if it doesn't change anything for you, you should at least understand what it says before deciding that it changes nothing for you.
  5. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2017/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2016 Instead, this rating represents team offensive DVOA with this quarterback either passing (including sacks) or scrambling. Ummm... what? This icreased DVOA (and he jumps all the way up to #2, so far from an insignificant jump) doesn't only consider his scrambles (as you imply in your utterly dismissive attitude), it considers passing, sacks, AND scrambles...
  6. Clearly that's simply not the way some people operate Hap, I'm sorry for being a part of potentially derailing this thread. It's interesting and new stuff and worth at least a discussion. Exactly! Talk about a handful who lack any restraint. Sorry... I can't resist, but DUDE!!!!! How many times are you gonna say you're going to stop posting on this subject only to keep posting on the subject?!?! Yeah a buncha douchebags flooded the thread starting **** just hurling insults rather than remotely talking about the subject. Why shouldn't there always be a thread on page 1 to discuss the starting QB of our favorite football team?
  7. Yeah I'm happy you posted that... it provides some validity at least to when I broke down Taylor's scrambles as separate from his designed runs. Looks like our OL was a big issue Whatever happened to you being done with all the Tyrod discussion? It's pretty dumb to not examine the Seattle game or 2nd Miami game this year as positives and proof a Taylor led team is capable of doing serious damage against good teams. It's like you're incapable of saying anything positive. Instead, you resort to "pantsed" as your go-to... How old are you? You keep jumping into these threads and saying you're done with this discussion, without prompting by anyone. Dude, are you bipolar? Clearly you're the one who needs Dr. Phil
  8. and two posts later... How many times in this thread alone are you going to say you're done with the subject only to come right back into the discussion you just said you were going to leave? You just can't quit us, can you?
  9. Whoa... good stuff! Glad you started this, Hap! Thanks
  10. Wow, no problem dishing it out but just can't take it, huh? You keep implying you're done with these conversations and then you keep coming back.
  11. Wanna make a fun wager? I say the Bills get to at least 8 wins.
  12. If you aren't interested in the "if" game, why are you here? That's literally all there is to discuss in the offseason, whether it's past or future "ifs." And if you're so tired of seeing a dead horse beaten, do yourself a favor and just ignore the conversations
  13. https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-hc-mcdermott-impressed-with-tyrod-taylors-leadership/ Taylor’s passer rating in 2016 when under pressure of 80.1 was seventh best among qualifying quarterbacks, while his 10 touchdowns thrown in those circumstances was tied for third. ​And anyone wondering who the 2 QBs ahead of him are, it's Aaron Rodgers with 12 TDs and Andrew Luck with 11. Russell Wilson also threw 10 TDs under pressure.
  14. Boy, you're just a bitter bundle of middle school, aren't you?
  15. The offense was a lot more efficient with Taylor/Lynn, too. Buffalo's 3 & out % and TOP (both areas of huge complaint for some) both go from bottom of the barrel to middle of the pack if you're only looking at the Taylor/Lynn combo. You mad, brah?
  16. Why do you need to randomly take away from other teams if you're doing it on a per game basis? If there are other teams that had similar changes in offensive play callers that'd make sense comparatively, but who are those teams?
  17. So I think all this stuff is worth a look. It's pretty darn interesting. So the Bills had 46 sacks, but Taylor was sacked 42 times. EJ was sacked 3 times and Jones was sacked once. The offense converted one of those sacks on EJ for a 1st down. So, Taylor's offense was 12/42 (still 28.6%) in converting 1st downs for a sack. But 16 of his 42 sacks were on 3rd down, which are plays I think it'd be hard to call "drive-killers" in the manner some people use that phrase.
  18. Hap, we're nubes so I understand the hesitation for making a new thread for something like this, but I actually think this link and the 2 articles in the "study" it references actually deserves it's own thread. There are going to be a couple of the (*ahem*) usual suspects who criticize the Tyrod homers for coming out in full force, but I don't think this is a study anyone has really seen or discussed. I'm still digesting some of it myself. I'll come back here to comment on it if you haven't started a separate thread. Thanks! Intriguing stuff
  19. Yes. Calling someone a tightwad is bashing him. It's an inflammatory statement. If you really can't see that, I think the next logical question would be: have you graduated High School, yet? There were plenty of other ways to say what you said. Instead, you chose to go the middle-school route throwing out playground insults.
  20. Dude... look at your 2nd and especially your 3rd posts in your own thread from page 1: You're calling yourself one of the worst posters on the board
  21. Yeah, and that's a big part of the problem here. Taylor was missing his top WRs in his not-so-deep WR corps more than most teams. Woods and Sammy missed a combined 11 games in 2016. Only the Jets and Chargers had their #1 and #2 WRs miss more games than Sammy and Woods. 2 other teams missed their #1 and #2 WRs 11 games like Buffalo: Tampa Bay and Chicago. None of those teams made the playoffs. By contrast, the 8 teams with the fewest games missed by their WRs all made the playoffs: Detroit (1) NYG (2) Houston (2) New England (4) 5 if you take Edleman, Amendola, and Hogan as a group Atlanta (4) Green Bay (4) Dallas (4) Kansas City (4)​
  22. You're giving a single example that isn't representative of most of his scrambles. QBs passing for 7.9 YPA are passing with great efficiency... you get that, right? 14 scrambles by Taylor were actually on 3rd down. 7 were converted. 50% conversion rate for a QB is pretty darn good. Taylor also scored 4 TDs scrambling on passing plays. These plays aren't the throwaway plays you insist they are. This just wreaks of someone who's ill-informed. Also... You and a couple other posters are being just flat out mean and rotten. You're directly insulting people who are bringing in different sides to the argument. Did you start this thread to discuss the topic or insult people?
  23. Good idea to consider special teams here. I know Thurm mentioned Buffalo's average starting position vs the opponent average field position. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/returning/sort/puntReturnYards/position/defense Looks like Buffalo's kick return special teams coverage was particularly horrible... 3rd worst in the league Again... nicely stated. Special teams has really been let off the hook in a lot of ways.
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