transplantbillsfan

This feels different than the 2021 team that was 7-6 and "in the hunt" after the Bucs loss?

Ummm... did you actually read the post and look at the chart? He does not have the highest ratio of the players on that chart.

I think you and @Alphadawg7 are looking at this in the wrong way. There should be one way to examine turnovers alone: It's about turnovers to touches. Total turnovers DIVIDED by the TOTAL number of touches which is simply pass attempts + sacks + rushing attempts gives you a true turnover percentage. That's how you determine whether Josh is really turnover prone compared to other QBs. Josh, Lamar and Burrow I know are all relatively close to each other. Josh is about 2.5% while Burrow and Lamar are about 2.1%. I didn't put in any work for anyone else, but since you 2 are going back and forth with this, you might want to. The thing is, to really figure out the cost/benefit to all this, you also basically need to do the same formula for total Touchdowns. Total touchdowns DIVIDED by the TOTAL number of touches which is simply pass attempts + sacks + rushing attempts gives you a true turnover percentage. That would be their actual TD %. Josh in this category is 5.6% while BOTH Burrow and Lamar sit at 4.8% So at least as far as these 2 other Elite QBs go, Josh's TD % is pretty notably higher than his TO % is worse than Burrow & Lamar, but the conversation is always about Josh being a turnover machine.

But people have never talked about Goff, Stafford, Carr, Ryan, Prescott, Cousins, Lamar or Burrow as turnover machines. All those QBs have about the same statistical tendency to turn the ball over as Josh with Stafford, Ryan, Goff and Carr being pretty significantly worse and Prescott, Cousins, Lamar and Burrow almost negligibly better.

I think it's interesting Joe came to that conclusion. I listen to Locked on Bills and heard that, too. Greg Cosell was on OBL today and he said the opposite. It's towards the end of the video, but what he says is (to paraphrase) is that in all his years of speaking with NFL coaches that players are taught that on a Zero Blitz, that leaves the middle of the field open and that's where the WRs should go to help their QB. I thought that was a great explanation and it makes perfect sense. If true (seems to be to me), the onus is on Gabe.

Figure it'd be a fun thread for Sunday and Monday to see how all these teams have done.

I agree with you and this wouldn't shock me.

Maybe the better question is who are you referring to when you're referring to "this team?" You including the 5-5 Buffalo Bills under Dorsey with the 1-1 Buffalo Bills under Joe Brady? I just think this is a different team over the last 2 games. The difference between the heartbreaker in Philly vs. the heartbreakers against the Jets, Pats and Broncos is that even though all 4 of those games were last second losses we easily could have won, Buffalo really played like the better team (and against one of the 2 or 3 best teams in the NFL) on the road on Sunday and just seemed to have absolutely everything go the wrong way for them to lose. In the first 10 games of the season, Buffalo often didn't feel like the better team... they were just lucky (or unlucky) enough to be able to have the lead at the ends of those games only to see them taken away. If the offense of the last 2 weeks is playing, we can absolutely go 5-0. I think the floor is 3-2, which would suck because it would almost certainly put us just outside looking in. But I don't think this team has a losing record in the last 5 games.

Joe Marino in his All-22 gives snap counts on Locked on Bills. Diggs missed less than 10 snaps.

First order of business... Slash Shawn Hochuli's tires at his house so he can't get to the game.

Happy Birthday!!! I hope we can get you a new BFF to play with you on the opposite side of the field as WR2 (for now) in Marvin Harrison Jr. 🙏

It'd be awesome if he came back next week and the Jets beat the Titans, the Dolphins the following week, and the Browns a couple weeks later.

Did our loss to Philly feel the same to you as our losses the rest of the season as far as our offense goes? I'll put this another way... if Buffalo started the season with the win against the Jets and that loss against Philly--same results and exact same games--would you feel like the team couldn't string together a series of wins?

He made basically 1 big mistake in the span of 2 games and 146 plays with that interception he threw to Bradbury. That's it. Other than that play, he was spectacular. Are you trolling us?

Yep. Wins and losses. Keeping the thread alive simply because the Josh Allen of old has showed up the last few weeks and if that's the Josh Allen we see the rest of the year, he still has a shot at MVP if we keep winning.

Zero percent? Did you watch Josh Allen play these last 2 weeks? Anything is possible when he's playing like that.

Since 2022 the Bills have won 9 one score games and lost 9 one score games. I know the narrative is that the Bills never win one score games, but it's not true. I think this bye week serves as a good reset for this team and hopefully Allen comes out firing in the last 5 games. Anything is still possible.

If this is how you feel you have a short memory and don't understand how the NFL playoffs work. If you get in and you have an Elite QB, you have a chance to run the table and win the Super Bowl. Just remember the 2021 season. We played horribly for much of that season. Even the end of the year when we won 4 straight were ugly wins. Then we played the Patriots and KC in the playoffs and looked like the best team in the NFL, minus a collapse with 13 seconds. Just get in. Just ask the 2010 Green Bay Packers (10-6 Wildcard Super Bowl Winner), 2011 New York Giants (9-7 Wildcard Super Bowl Winner), 2012 Baltimore Ravens (10-6 Wildcard Super Bowl Winner), and 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (11-5 Wildcard Super Bowl Winner). Just get in. We have Josh Allen. Now it looks like we have an OC who knows what he's doing. We have a chance.

Here are the remaining schedules of all remaining teams vying for the Wildcard Browns (7-4): Week 13: at Rams (5-6) Week 14: vs. Jaguars (8-3) Week 15: vs. Bears (3-8) Week 16: at Texans (6-5) Week 17: vs. Jets (4-7) Week 18: at Bengals (5-6) Steelers (7-4): Week 13: vs. Cardinals (2-10) Week 14: vs. Patriots (2-9) Week 15: at Colts (6-5) Week 16: vs. Bengals (5-6) Week 17: at Seahawks (6-5) Week 18: at Ravens (9-3) Colts (6-5): Week 13: at Titans (4-7) Week 14: at Bengals (5-6) Week 15: vs. Steelers (7-4) Week 16: at Falcons (5-6) Week 17: vs. Raiders (5-7) Week 18: vs. Texans (6-5) Texans (6-5): Week 13: vs. Broncos (6-5) Week 14: at Jets (4-7) Week 15: at Titans (4-7) Week 16: vs. Browns (7-4) Week 17: vs. Titans (4-7) Week 18: at Colts (6-5) Broncos (6-5): Week 13: at Texans (6-5) Week 14: at Chargers (4-7) Week 15: at Lions (8-3) Week 16: vs. Patriots (2-9) Week 17: vs. Chargers (4-7) Week 18: at Raiders (5-7) Bills (6-6): Week 13: Bye Week 14: at Chiefs (8-3) Week 15: vs. Cowboys (8-3) Week 16: at Chargers (4-7) Week 17: vs. Patriots (2-9) Week 18: at Dolphins (8-3) I don't understand why anyone would write in wins for any team in the NFL this year. Buffalo's bye week is a blessing.

Did you actually watch your favorite team play the 2 games against Denver they played?

Just did a bunch of playoff simulators. Obviously if we win out, we're in. It'd be very, very hard for us not to get in winning out. If Buffalo loses 1, I was actually surprised how many scenarios (plausible ones) they get in. I just hope that's the offense we see the rest of the season. If that's the offense (and more importantly, the Josh Allen) we see for the remainder of the season, anything is possible.

I think this very well could be the case. There are no moral victories in the NFL, but this is probably the "best loss" Buffalo has had since the 13 seconds game. Josh Allen looks like the Josh Allen of old over the last 2 weeks. Maybe Joe Brady with an extra week can throw in a few wrinkles that make the offense even better. Maybe McDermott self-evaluates (he actually said he'd do this in his post game PC) and turns over the defensive play calling duties to Babbich or someone else so he can focus more on managing the game... while getting some help with that. That loss sucked. But if there was one game to lose in our last 6 it was yesterday's game. It just hurt more because Buffalo was clearly the better team yesterday.

If Allen and the offense can keep playing like this... yes, I do. Yes, I think the Bills can go 5-0 down the stretch if Allen and the offense keep their level of play up. I actually think they could lose 1 and still get in, though. I also think people are really overvaluing the Dolphins, who I could easily see losing to anyone remaining on their schedule, including the Commanders next Sunday. Do you guys think any of our remaining games will be tougher than the one today?

Not yet. If we miss the playoffs it might be, though. Objectively, if we had to choose 1 of our 6 remaining games to lose, it was this one. Non conference road game against maybe the best team in the NFL and you probably should have won. We have a bye week... let's see what they do after that. I know no one wants any optimistic viewpoint right now, but that was the toughest game left on our schedule. Maybe it acts like the Tampa loss in 2021. Maybe not. Regardless, the result of this game was the least important result of all our remaining games.