transplantbillsfan

I'm just glad most people seem to realize the whole "YARDZZ!!!!" argument is just stupid when it comes to this QB and this team.

How do you know we're having a very different conversation?

Pretty impressive. Is that updated to include today's game? Well I did say that it's "still TBD"

8 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 2 turnovers, team is 5-2. Have you ever considered that maybe if the rest of this year plays out similarly to how it's been playing so far that McBeane might actually identify Taylor as our Franchise QB? The thing I've been impressed with is that Taylor hasn't been asked to carry the team or put the team on his back unless absolutely necessary, and when it is, he delivers. I can't look up Taylor's passing splits at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they would be pretty impressive in the "passing when trailing" category. It's possible that's McDermott's ideal game plan as opposed to chucking it all over the field. Taylor might just be an unconventional Franchise QB, but a Franchise QB nonetheless. Still TBD, though.

I watched without sound and after the Bills only challenge I thought we won the challenge based on McDermott's reaction and Del Rio's stoicism

I was worried into the 4th

There are legitimately people who are going to look at Derek Carr's stat line and be impressed. People are idiots. All these arguments about us being the worst passing offense in the NFL and Taylor being a handicap are ridiculous. We just don't pass very much at all when we have a lead. 17 passes in the first half without the lead. 10 passes in the 2nd half with the lead.

Choo choo!!!!! Let's keep this playoff train rolling baby!!!!

You're right. 54 TDs and 17 turnovers. Still better than a 3:1 TD to turnover ratio

This is satirical, right? If it's not, it's pretty obvious that Boldin signed a contract to play with Buffalo, decided to conveniently "retire to pursue social activism" immediately after the team traded away arguably its most lethal offensive weapon and resembled a team going down the tank path and now suddenly (and again, rather conveniently) wants back in. He's still under contract with the Bills. So again I ask, is this thread satirical?

Boy oh boy, stick with statistics. Posting stuff that ranks him anywhere from 7th-19th and you think I'm calling him an All-Pro. Read the post you directly refer to and you'll see that it's not about how good he is but about how bad he clearly isn't. And you didn't say Peterman "might" start. You said you think he "will." You can be wrong, too, ya know

Soooo... What exactly is my argument? And what is the point I'm proving? PS: You actually think this was because I thought I was losing an argument that had to do with the Bills believing Peterman, A fifth round rookie who has literally done absolutely nothing in the NFL, is a better option at QB than Taylor next year?

What? Suddenly we're talking statistics? Indy, we're talking around each other at this point.

How would you know if you don't even know what they are? I'll say this, you (and others) may not appreciate my consistent posting about Taylor, but when I have a conversation with someone, I'll actually read everything they say and click on links if there are any before I counter any of their arguments. This was probably just a momentary lapse for you, but it's not a good look.

Here's a nice breakdown of one of Taylor's throws http://www.cover1.net/filmroom-breakdown-week-7/ There are a bunch of things I love about this play. Let’s first talk about the great timing and placement of this pass. This is a very tight window, especially for a guy who hasn’t shown the ability to pull the trigger on a lot of throws like this. Taylor does an excellent job identifying the rotating safety. Pre-snap, Tampa Bay was showing a 2-high safety, cover 4 look, but right at the snap of the ball the safety on the left hash squats, while his counterpart bails for his deep middle responsibility. The read on this play actually becomes the middle linebacker Kwon Alexander, who you can clearly see Taylor immediately look to at the snap. Jones preoccupies Alexander just long enough to open up that window. Brent Grimes makes a really nice play on the ball; you can tell he had his eyes in the backfield the entire play. So, considering he [Taylor] made a great read and threw a perfect ball that escaped a corner ditching his zone to make an aggressive play on the ball having read Taylor the whole way, this is terrific execution. Taylor really does make this play look easy, but there is so much to like about his ability to read and diagnose the coverage, finding his read key, and throwing accurately to a brief window in the secondary. These are the sorts of plays Taylor will need to continue making to keep this offense trending upward, but this has to give you hope that there might be some passing ability in there that Rick Dennison is tapping into.

Well, at least I know you didn't bother clicking the links and looking at the passes since there aren't 6 passes there

Sorry, I would have liked to embed the videos, but not a clue how to do it. https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923222076537950209https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923222076537950209 https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923226963539619840 https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923234562272055296https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923234562272055296 https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/922824995130302464 https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923238378274947072 https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/923239985679159297

whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! Dude, you can see very easily that Peterman's passes lack the velocity Taylor's passes have.

Considering that next to Sammy, Goodwin might've been the WR Taylor trusted the most, especially on deep balls, yes. and there's also Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins. Hell, last week showed you what QB & WR chemistry means to a passing game. Hopefully Taylor and Thompson can continue developing their chemistry

That's a really poor way of judging whether a QB has improved or not. Really? I think he has less to go than you think. Neither of those guys are great QBs, on the whole. Before this year tons and tons of posters pretty consistently made the Alex Smith comparisons, actually. Of course, we're just being victims of the moment and seeing what Alex Smith has done for 7 games in 2017 rather than the prior 11 years he had in the NFL as a starting QB.

when they're ignorant opinions, yes, it's healthy to ignore them. Alex Smith and Russell Wilson beg to differ

I think Peterman being the starter next year is a relative longshot in comparison to either Taylor being the starter again OR whatever 1st round rookie we draft being the starter. I also really don't think McDermott's going to make it an open competition at QB if this team makes the playoffs and Taylor plays more like the 4 games I mentioned than the Carolina or Cincy games.

So are you agreeing that if those things happen, your prediction that Peterman wlll be the 2018 starter is off base? Was your post saying you expect Peterman to be the starter predicated on all those unsaid "ifs" of us losing, not making the playoffs, and Taylor sucking?

If this team keeps winning, we make the playoffs and Taylor keeps playing like he did against NYJ/DEN/ATL/TB, I'd say there's very little chance Taylor isn't our starter game 1 of 2018 with a young drafted rookie learning on the bench.