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Dennison blows. So 11/26 rushes by RBs went for zero or negative yards yesterday is Taylor's fault? His playcalling is so predictable it's almost sickening. McDermott wanted McCoy... go get him!

We might not be. But we might just be getting tons of sacks and interceptions instead with the OL we have. I think this team seriously overachieved largely because of Taylor. And I realize that's going to get a laugh based on the yards he gets per game because there are those who are just obsessed with yards, but I'm actually going to paraphrase BLM from a thread he had last week regarding his observations from the chargers game: we would be a one or two win team without Taylor. It's not reflected in statistics, but I think our OL is one of the worst in the NFL and to top it off we have one of the worst offensive playcallers in the NFL. Dennison called 26 rushes to RBs yesterday. 16 of them went for no more than 1 yard. 11 of them went for zero or negative yardage. That's just insane when you have one of the best RBs in the NFL! And that's not even counting other stupid handoffs like the one on third and six. Taylor has faced more third and longs then any other QB in the NFL this year other than Rivers and somehow he ranks 12th in the NFL and third down conversion percentage. Why so many third and longs? Because Denison keeps calling these goddamn predictable plays on first and second down! I don't think he's going to get fired this year, but I hope in the off-season McDermott goes out and gets McCoy, the guy he initially wanted as his OC. As for Taylor, from the outside it sure looks like there has been irreparable damage done to that relationship. But I also have this sneaky suspicion that public perception is just perception and nothing close to reality. I think McBean picks up Taylor's option with the plan to either trade him during the draft for a first round pick or keep them next year and and allow him to start while the rookie learns on the bench. His contract is set up to do almost exactly that. Look,allow him to start while the rookie learns on the bench. His contract is set up to do almost exactly that. Look, Taylor is a significantly improved quarterback this year from what he was the last couple years and a lot of ways. You can just see it if you're really being honest and watching him play with his pocket presence and his passing over the middle (talking deep and intermediate ) and his third-down conversions, etc. With all of that said, this victory was nice, but it was definitely deflated a little bit by a combination of the previous three games and the upcoming Game against the patriots. And it was made even worse by the fact that our coaches were just coaching scared by the end of the game. Really irritating. Whatever small chance we have of beating the patriots is going to be completely negated if McDermott and Dennison keep coaching like this. Yuuuuuuppp!!! Step up to do what? Get destroyed by another guy running straight at him? Goff is largely the product of a brilliant offensive mind combined with a ton of offensive talent right now. He would likely be terrible on the Bills!

We have draft picks we can use to get a Franchise QB by trading up next draft. We've already won too many games to get one of the top 2-5 picks on our own. Time to root for the playoffs if you aren't already Hell, I don't care if we get in the playoffs and get blown out of the water... let's just make the friggin playoffs for once!!! It's not where you draft it's who you draft. Alex Smith was drafted #1 overall while Aaron Rodgers slid into the 20s. Look at how bad Trubisky looks and how good Watson look(ed). Draft the right guy... not EJ 2.0.

McDermott reportedly wanted Mike McCoy as his OC first and he's currently available. I could see him firing Dennison and going after McCoy. You just can't argue that Dennison doesn't have some infuriatingly head-scratchingly conservative play calling at times.

This is seriously infuriating. I can't stand Dennison. I'm sick of runs that are going to be stuffed for -2 or -3 yards before they happen because his play calling is so goddamn predictable. I just went through the play-by-play and our running game produced 11 runs for no gain or negative yardage and 5 more that went for just 1 yard. 57% of our friggin runs by an RB went for 1 yard or less!!! I don't know what the hell McDermott was thinking on that 2nd to last drive not just trying to put the game away. You have a QB who won't turn the ball over in that situation so why the hell aren't you going for a first down rather than 3 ridiculously predictable runs? *Conspiracy theory alert* I actually kinda think McDermott is MUUUCH more focused on the future than the present. I don't think he particularly cares about winning right now. I won't say he actively wants to lose, but at the same time he seems to be doing everything on earth to try to. I don't know if being a defensive HC makes him focused on defensive development so he's fine giving teams like the Falcons or Chiefs the ball back with an opportunity to drive down for a GWD so he can see how his defense responds. Maybe Taylor has exceeded his expectations of what he thought he'd be. Obviously that's not reflected in numbers like passing yards (which I know some people cling needlessly to), but when you consider how Taylor has been somehow overcoming a porous OL and atrocious running game in times he absolutely has to pass, he's been good. I think Taylor's significantly improved some aspects of his game. It's going to be interesting what unfolds the rest of the season and next offseason, to say the least.

KC also kept Alex Smith and started him while the young kid learned on the bench. That's kinda what I'm expecting to happen next year. At the very least, I think we'll pick up Taylor's option to trade him at draft time to trade up and get "our guy." Except the defense and the running game didn't show up yesterday... just the defense. That's generally true for most QBs. Look at what's happening in Dallas with Dak Prescott. Taylor might be playing behind one of the worst OLs in the NFL and having his plays called by one of the worst OCs in the NFL and yet, somehow, he's been efficient and doing what he's been asked to do. It's a little hard to convert 3rd down conversions consistently when your team averages a 8+ yards to go on 3rd down. Running game? What running game? Without Taylor eluding pass rush that would have otherwise been a sack with any other QB and then passing yesterday, we lose. It's a team game people. Taylor's the QB and was a huge contributor to that victory.

That O'Leary pass definitely could have been better. It was one of the big reasons we didn't get that first down. At the same time, O'Leary could have got up and run for the first down or probably just rolled for a first down pretty easily. That said, I think people are really dumb when it comes to the Taylor scrutiny. He's doing what he's asked to do in an offensive system and with an OC who simply looks inept. Can anyone find a stat for "most negative plays on 1st and 2nd down in the NFL" this year or "most negative rushes in the NFL?" I bet we're right at the top, if not #1 for both. Dennison won't get fired this year, but I really hope McDermott fires him in the offseason and brings in McCoy, the guy he apparently wanted initially. In that game Taylor faced an average of 8 yards to go on 3rd down. That's considered a 3rd and long and Taylor converted 4 out of 11 of those 3rd and longs. That 36.4% conversion percentage yesterday on 3rd and long is the 4th highest conversion percentage in the entire NFL on 3rd and long. And Taylor faces waaaaaayyyy too many of those (tied for 2nd most in the entire NFL) thanks to some terribly predictable playcalling on first and 2nd down by Dennison. I actually read some posts by some idiotic people putting blame on Taylor for not getting a 1st down to run out the clock on our 2nd to last drive... as though it's his fault Dennison called 2 straight runs that got stuffed and then a QB draw. People are dumb. Taylor's a good QB who we'll try to upgrade on in the offseason. In the meantime, he's the guy helping us to win games as opposed to the guy last week who literally threw games away to the other team last week.

Every win is a good win when we're still this much in the playoff hunt. Obviously.

Hell yeah baby!!! Let's go Texans!!!

Here we go baby!!! 6 wins in the weak AFC!!! Find a way to get 3 more and we're in!!! Whoop Whoop!!!

I don't think we're trading for another QB were trying to acquire one of these mid-level free agents. I think we're drafting a guy high. But that doesn't preclude us from keeping Taylor for 2018. The way they built his contract and almost seems like that was in the plans.

I'm starting to question this, too. I actually think there's a decent chance he's still our starter in 2018. At the very least, I think we're going to pick up his option and use him as part of a trade.

Exactly

I don't think you actually watch football. Being an Internet Troll must be your hobby. Bengals 2016 all over? What a joke Who really cares though... no one should take anything you say seriously at this point. Way to start a huge ridiculous mean-spirited call out bet and then handle your loss like a child. Bad form!

Wow super lame. Can't even live up to your own bet for one hour. Nice display of a lack of integrity

Fitzy can't say anything bad about our QBs for a week :neener: Whoop whoop!!!

Awesome! I hope you're right! We will almost certainly be drafting one of those six guys that you just put up. Can't wait!

It's too bad you just keep on shifting your argument Thurm. It's like you're chasing your own tail or something. We've had this conversation enough where it's pretty easy to remember that it was always about frequency throwing to the deep middle. It was frequency that you stressed. And suddenly as you see that Taylor is comparable to one of the better NFL QBs (and question, what are the numbers of all of the other NFL QBs to the deep middle if you're saying Wilson throws there less than most? Have you done the work? Can't wait to read it!) you suddenly bring in how ineffective he is. And you say you lump the two together because Taylor has a history of both. Well as far as the intermediate middle goes, he's been improving on it since his first year as a starter and is significantly improved right now. And he throws their relatively frequently and incredibly effectively. So you talk your bubbles about the deep middle, leave the poor now innocent intermediate middle out of it

Just wanted to get you on record

I didn't respond to everything because why bother if you're just playing a rhetorical game rather than actually talking football? As for deep and intermediate, why do you still lump the 2 together? Honestly, it's a weird stubborn obsession you have doing that. Intermediate middle is no longer a problem. And that was the biggest legitimate worry because the vaaAAAaaaassst majority of NFL throws are less than 20 yards and the chain moving money maker throws are those 10-20 yard throws. And the most difficult ones are that middle portion less than 20 yards where you're dealing with all the traffic. He has a passer rating above 143 throwing there (league average is low 80s) and he's thrown almost 20 passes, 2 TDs and zero interceptions to the intermediate middle portion of the field. That's A LOT more than the last couple years. He improved from 2015 to 2016 but his leap from 2016 to 2017 is noticeable and significant. As for the deep middle. It still doesn't matter, but Taylor's thrown 1.1% of his passes there. Russell Wilson's thrown 2.1% of his passes there. Whoopdy doooo

Whatever you say Thurm. Typical approach by you. Avoid actual discussion by sticking with weird semantics. Ready to talk yet about how improved Taylor is over the intermediate middle portion of the field yet?

So I know this was a troll job, but are you taking your own bet up or are you that incapable of speaking positively about Taylor for the week if he passes for over 130 yards (which he will) and we win (which we might)?

Can you give me the 3 who are obviously upgrades on Taylor?

Wow... you actually did this for that game?!?! I have to ask why? Was it primarily to see if the players quit. If not... good... I guess...? Anyway, it really was a fantastic job. I think the comments about Taylor standing between us and the 1st and 2nd pick is a mixed bag considering the waffling our coach is doing. Thanks for the work! But whyyyyyy?!

Just come ask for some in a month and a half when it happens