transplantbillsfan

Now I absolutely know you're trolling. There isn't any possible way you could believe a QB who through five passes for 33 yards outperformed a QB who threw 25 passes for the 158 yards and a TD while also rushing for another 38 yards and a TD. Only a moron would say something like that seriously... and you're not a moron. This post just wreaks of your Troll manure, Shady. Shame on you.

Shady is the ONLY generational talent on this team. I desperately want to see him retire as a Buffalo Bill, but I think he'll go back to the Eagles for that. Regardless, he's still playing at such a high level that I'm gonna be so pissed if McBeane ship him off just for the sake of saving Cap space.

Yep. He asked for a west coast game Taylor has won in 3 years. He's only played 3 of them and he's 1-2 in those games, with one of those 2 losses being a primetime MNF road game that most would label as one of Taylor's 2 best performances. It was just a poorly thought post that was trying to insinuate that Taylor's history somehow proves that going to the west coast somehow made it that much more impossible for him to get a W.

Taylorism? I'm sorry, it doesn't have to be Taylorism to see that benching Taylor for Peterman was clearly a mistake. As for west coast games Taylor has won... 2016 @ LA Rams.

Well, considering you were on record saying we didn't have a chance to win against the Dolphins with Tyrod under center, let's all hope you continue to be wrong

Why in the world is it such a big if that the Chargers lose one road game on a West to East road game or one divisional game to close out the year? Personally, I think if you had to choose between EITHER the Chargers winning their next 2 OR not, you put money down on not. This is what amazes me... you don't go into games hoping for MORE outcomes... you hope for LESS.

No. You're playing a mathematical game and looking at schedules and penciling in Ws and Ls... one of the entire points I started this thread initially was because I think doing that is just foolish. It's the NFL and absolutely anything can happen. I'd love that phrase to transpire into 2 straight Ws for Buffalo, but knowing that we're unlikely to see that just given our history, we root for Ls in any given situation for the other teams competing for the Wildcard with us. Being happy that a team also competing for the Wildcard wins and keeps pace with us 3 games before the season ends, I would say, is just wrong. If these permutations occur, we can do that in week 17, but first and foremost I'm rooting for a Buffalo W this weekend, followed by an L by the Ravens, Titans, AND Chargers. I'm sure all 3 don't lose, but I'd also bet 1 or 2 of them lose.

I respectfully disagree.

Ummm... what? Are you arguing just to argue? Or were you one of the ones who thought we wouldn't win more than 4 games and bitter that you were wrong?

It's the NFL and I just think you're relying on too many permutations that you assumed were most likely scenarios. The Chargers could very easily lose in New Jersey next week or at home against the Raiders to close out the season. OR The Chiefs could potentially lose both of their remaining games.

Tons of things can happen. The Chiefs aren't exactly models of consistency. They could lose their last 2 games and the Chargers could take the AFC West, eliminating them from WC contention. There's just a lot. Root for 2 straight wins and 10-6 and we're pretty much locked into a playoff spot. I know a W in NE is unlikely, but I'm praying for a Christmas Miracle... would make my holiday that much better. As far as 9-7 goes, I'd rather root for this and that (Chargers losing one of their last 2 OR Chiefs losing their last 2 AND Titans losing week 17 to the Jags OR Ravens losing one more) rather than this and that and that (Chargers winning 2 AND Titans losing to the Jags but not the Rams AND Ravens losing one more). Lots of permutations involved here. I hope the Bills just simplify things and win their next 2

No, no one knows. We can't say for sure that Taylor wouldn't have thrown 5 interceptions in one half and we wouldn't have gone down 30 at the half because of those 5 interceptions because Taylor didn't start and I'm unable to see into parallel universes. But I think anyone with any level of sanity would acknowledge nothing like that would have happened in the 1st half if Taylor started. Maybe we don't win. Maybe we do. What I disagree with is that it isn't completely obvious that game would have been a much more competitive game if Taylor were starting. Cincinnati and the Colts are both common opponents. We lost to the Bengals and beat the Colts. The Ravens played the 'Phins, who we play twice, and the Bengals, who they play twice. If the Ravens lose either of these next 2 games and the Bills beat the 'Phins but we beat the Patriots, we both have 1 loss against common opponents and it goes to the Strength of Victory tiebreaker. That's a really weird way to root for this. playing out. To me, it's most logical to root for losses for these teams. The Chargers play the Jets in NY... which is no gimme... and then a divisional game against the Raiders. The Titans losing yesterday was best for us knowing the likelihood of the Bills, Ravens, Titans and Chargers somehow ALL ending up 9-7 is pretty far-fetched.

Ummm... what? How on God's green Earth was Tennessee losing to SF a bad thing???

Correct, but it's not like that's not that far-fetched. Then you have the Titans who close with 2 incredibly tough teams in the Rams and Jags. I can't believe I'm saying it, but root for the Jets this weekend because I could see the Chargers being the one team getting in over us at 9-7... and if that happens, McDermott better prepare himself for an offseason of public media criticism for benching Taylor in that LA game.

Yes, but both of the Ravens final opponents are common opponents, so if Buffalo beats Miami but loses to NE, which I think everyone agrees is fairly likely, we're tied in common opponents and it's back to SOV.

Every loss will have cost us, including the Peterman debacle. Root for teams we've beaten to win because there's a really good chance the SOV tiebreaker could come into play.

As for the pass to Jones, I just watched it a couple more times. It won't be labeled a drop, but the ball landed squarely in his hands and he was just never able to cleanly catch it and there was really minimal interference by the defender. It should have been a catch, that's why I think it's a drop.

The "any other QB would throw 4 interceptions" was tongue in cheek and just playing to the Peterman crowd C'mon now... can we please stop accusing anyone of thinking Taylor is the best QB of all time It's not like we aren't still and still shouldn't be drafting a QB in round 1.

It's not Bills fans, it's people in general, especially when they get grouped in packs with a sort of mob mentality.

Well... we're doing our part and so are the Colts. Damn, I really thought the Giants were going to beat the Eagles as I was watching that game in the bar

Whoops

You missed a game where the offense looked like it found its rhythm and Taylor played some of the best football of his career for the 1st half. Then McDermott/Dennison's offensive approach went typically conservative when they get a 2 score lead. I just want a foot to the throat 60 minute pounding for once just to prove we can hold a lead. Next week if we miraculously get a lead this offensive approach just won't work.

If the Ravens lose either of their next 2 games and the Bills beat the 'Phins week 17, we would have the same common opponent record and it would then go to Strength of Victory. Can't say for sure, but I think Buffalo would have SOV tiebreaker.

It just really irritates me because the offense was just on fire in the first half. Taylor had perhaps his best half and a Bills uniform. We looked like we were going to blow them out by 30+ points. This worked because it was Jay Cutler and the Dolphins. Next week is going to be a very different story.

Gotta bump for another week... alive all the way to week 17... just look back through the pages of this very thread to the beginning of the year to discover how impossible this seemed for many right here on this message board