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I really hope the FO doesn't do something stupid like cutting Shady this offseason. He's such a special player

Some of you, I think, or putting too much into this meant touring thing with veteran QBs versus Rockies. If we get Donald and he's on the bench he will learn from the coaches and in the film room. One thing he can observe from Tyrod and take from him is his Monday to Saturday preparation. Favre didn't "mentor" Rodgers. They didn't even like each other by most reports. If Darnold is the kid he's reported to be, he's going to learn what to do and what not to do while sitting and observing. And if we get him and we just decide to start in from game one and take our lumps, I'm fine with that, too. Regardless of all this, I know VERY little about college football, but the little I know the only 3 QBs I want at this moment are Mayfield, Darnold, Rudolph... in that order. And I'll repeat, I'm largely unaware of college football.

Again... so our hope could then be he comes out, falls, maybe we still trade up but not as far as top 5, and maybe we let him sit on the bench for just a little while while he who shall not be named (by some ) starts for a bit while he grows a little. Yeah, maybe he's still a bit raw. But a lot of what I've read and heard say he has the potential to be a generational QB.

Sweet!!! Maybe he falls to us! amiright?!

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCoJo01.htm

Seriously? An apples to apples comparison with a guy who started just over half the games that Taylor has started in the last three years? First of all, both of these guys have about 237-238 yards per game total they're putting up. But yards are NOT the most important STAT!!! 3 years for McCown, 41 TDs, 33 turnovers. 3 years for Taylor, 64 TDs, 21 turnovers. 'nuff said buuuuut... there is also the fact that in significantly fewer games than Taylor over the last 3 years, McCown has lost 527 yards on sacks to Taylor's 653 yards. annnnnnd... in the last 3 years Taylor has more 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives than McCown. alsoooooo... since I know of a poster or two who view ANY/A as the most important stat, Taylor has a higher average there than McCown over the last 3 years, too. McCown is not better than Taylor

Trade would be nice. I'm more skeptical we just release him. Didn't Rappaport say exactly this exactly a year ago?

This is 100% what I'm rooting for! Maybe we can get Luck But can someone explain to me why I shouldn't like Rudolph?

From the little I know, Darnold or Mayfield.

I think the Bengals are more likely to beat the Ravens than those other scenarios.

Who cares? Shady is the absolute best player on our offense by far, Clay is the 2nd best and our WR corps is one of the worst in the NFL for the 2nd year in a row. That is why Shady is #1 in targets and Clay is #2. Get the ball in the hands of your best players and that's what we're doing. What the heck is your problem with that? Taylor is not the eighth best QB in the NFL and he's not the 11th or the 14th. But he sure as hell is not the 30-35th, either. Everyone, I would say absolutely everyone wants to upgrade on Taylor this off-season. So what is your problem?

He asked a question and I answered. No, ALEX is not like QBR because it's just averaging passes on third down and where they are thrown. As you can see, on average Taylor throws the ball past the first down marker on third down. We can talk about Taylor's deficiencies as long as we aren't making them up along the way. Taylor is 41.5% converting 3rd downs while passing, which is 11th out of 36 QBs and includes sacks. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=098&type=Passing&year=2017

This is a stat Footballoutsiders calls ALEX and you can find where all QBs rank here: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb here's their description of ALEX: ALEX represents Air Less EXpected on third downs, the average difference between the length of the quarterback's throw and the distance needed for a new set of downs. The number listed here only includes third downs and is not adjusted for passes thrown away or batted down. Taylor ranks 18th out of 35 QBs. Here's a list of just some of the QBs Taylor has a higher ALEX than, or QBs who throw to or past the sticks less than Taylor: Drew Brees Phillip Rivers Case Keenum Jared Goff Alex Smith Matt Ryan Kirk Cousins among others. I hope that was helpful. After all, you did ask for it

No. Sorry. If we're talking tiebreakers, the Chargers loss was a head to head loss against a playoff team and automatically makes us lose the tiebreaker to them if we're in a 1 on 1 tie with them, no matter what because that's the very first tiebreaker. that mattered most. If the Ravens lose this week and we're tied with them we have the tiebreaker.

It's just funny how some here are legitimately saying Taylor's the 30-35th best QB in the NFL. I want to upgrade, but Taylor's been a welcome surprise in his time in Buffalo.

Did this just turn political??? Sounds like a great opportunity for mods to move the thread

You're being evasive. I accounted for pass attempts, rushes AND sacks for Taylor in terms of offensive snaps, total yards, total 1st downs and total TDs in terms of percentages of those on the team. Did you do the same for all NFL QBs? Are Goff or Prescott or Cutler or Matt Ryan or whoever above or below 54%, 61%, 58%, and 65% of their respective teams total snaps, yards, 1st downs and TDs? Curious where Taylor ranks in that percentage once you piece it together. And also, there was the entire game Taylor missed... yet he's still accounted for those percentages of total team snaps/yards/1st downs/TDs on the year.

Hey Thurm, you complain about this all of the time so how about some links? Those links would be especially helpful to figure out what your stats actually include and do not include. My stats were very simple and taken directly from NFL.com and Teamrankings.com. You say yourself right here "Goff must have run a play or two, as did a few other QBs." A player or two, huh? Yeah, 10 QBs in the NFL ran the ball 50 times or more. 19 QBs in the NFL ran the ball 30 times or more. 33 QBs in the NFL ran the ball 16 times or more. Meaning that at least 33 ran the ball at least one play. http://pickingpros.com/nfl/quarterback-rushing-leaders.php Did whatever numbers you included a count for sacks, as well? I have no idea, because I don't have your link.

He wasn't wrong. I think you just need to explain yourself a little bit better. Re McCown: No, it's not the same thing. It's not the same thing because (and this is going to upset some of you) McCown is not as good or as consistentor as consistent a QB as Taylor.

I'm curious, but when has an NFL starter for one team for 3 consecutive years who's under 30 ever been cut without a viable replacement on the roster or in return? You say this kind of thing happens all the time so I expect finding something like this will be easy And again, just so that you don't get confused, I am not saying that Taylor will absolutely be here next year. However, I do think 0BD is going to have a very clear plan regarding the QB position if and when they do get rid of Taylor. And it's going to be a plan that's pretty solid. Where we are currently drafting, we can't say that we have any solid shot at any particular QB. So, unless OBD decides and manages to trade up into the top five for a draft pick before Taylor's bonus is due, I think there is a strong likelihood that he is still on the roster all the way up through the draft and maybe beyond.

This kind of hypothetical is really stupid. Really stupid

Why do you insist on drawing these lines in the sand? I potentially want Taylor here and potentially to start. Do you know who our QB is going to be? I don't. I'll tell you this, the more I hear about this Josh Allen kid, the more it scares me because he really just sounds like EJ 2.0. If he is, we probably will and should do what we did not do with EJ, even though that seemed to be the plan if not for a fall on a mat. If we trade up in the draft for a QB, I expect that shiny new rookie to start day one. Another factor in this is that 0BD does not know what's going to unfold in the draft. If they plan on drafting a rocky, I think it makes it that much more likely that Taylor is still in a bills uniform simply because he has to be cut by the fourth day of the new lead year or if he is owed a bonus which we will not get back. If the plan is to go out and get a bet QB like Cousins, obviously Taylor would be cut or traded at best somehow. What I think is likely to happen is that Taylor remains on the roster all the way up until the draft and then 0BD uses him as part of a draft package to try to trade up for Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield. From the little I know, if it's any of those three QBs, I 100% would love to start him on day one, even though Darnold sounds like he might need some time to learn. But if it's a guy like Allen or Jackson (and again, I really don't watch college football so I'm just throwing names out based on what I have heard and a little I have seen), then I'm going to guess they're going to need some time on the bench to learn, in which case I think there's a really good chance Taylor will still be here taking snaps and Week 1.

Baker Mayfield is the guy I'm really starting to want badly. Alas, I don't know if he's a McBeane type of guy

Bengals. I think they have a good shot. Division game. Marvin Lewis's last game against the team he made his name with. Win one for the gipper!

What??? Against it? Why are you assuming I'm against it?