transplantbillsfan

Wha... bu... I ca... It’s literally like some people here are just going to keep saying whatever they believe even in direct response to threads that essentially and logically nullify it. I mean, after all, why bother reading and understanding someone else’s arguments when I have opinions that are all my own, right?

And so you follow it up with a condescending and immature "look at me" post rather than maturely ignoring his thread. Vicious cycle as it goes. His might be a "look at me" thread, but it's a thoughtful one that really only has to exist because tribalism is making some of you anTy Taylor guys absolutely insane... like to the point where people are actually saying Trevor Siemian and Rick Mirer are/were better QBs than Tyrod Taylor. If McBeane sees our QB situation the same way as the OP, which I think is rather likely, then I really hope the fish are abundant for you on those Fall Sundays that you refuse to watch a team you've been a fan of for 45 years because... well... I guess you legitimately view Taylor as the worst starting QB in a Bills uniform in nearly half a century...?

Ladies and gentlemen... here's reading between the lines with lesson #1 in identifying when poster Thurman#1 admits he's wrong. The above, loosely translated = "when I said Taylor had next to no chance remaining on the roster past March 16th and that anyone who thought otherwise was delusional, I WAS WRONG." Lesson complete

Not too smart, I guess. Not hard at all, actually... We saw a massive downgrade play out this year against the Chargers.

Good God I hope you aren't being serious. Siemian sucks way more than you could even pretend to argue Tyrod sucks. Tribalism over this issue is making some of the anTy Taylor guys just plain stupid

Yes... that's his shtick. That or run away when he's wrong.

Real value, huh? What's the Cap impact if we cut Taylor tomorrow? Now subtract that number from $23 million and you have your real Cap impact for the next 2 years. Forgive me if I don't take much credence from the guy who said there was nearly no chance in Buffalo paying Taylor his $6 million bonus by March 16th, yet the reports right now are that that's exactly what they're going to do unless they can trade him before then. Siemian sucks and would be a big downgrade from Taylor. McBeane won't downgrade the position. And this isn't me saying that Simeon won't be on the team. I can reasonably Envision him being a Buffalo Bill, but it would only be because we've traded up likely with Denver to the V Spot and plan on getting one of the top 2 or 3 QBs. That would constitute an upgrade and would absolutely be reason for Taylor to be gone. But if we aren't massively trading up like that and we stay put right around where we are in the draft, Buffalo more likely than not will keep Taylor for one more year.

Good God man... we don't want him because he's got no exceptional aspect to his game, whatsoever. Yeah, like Tyrod he was a late round draft pick. But Tyrod has exceptional athleticism... which is the whole reason there's ever been the prospect of him being a Franchise QB. What exceptional quality or characteristic does Siemian possess? If we bring him in, we've traded Taylor to the Broncos for Siemian in a massive package to move up to #5 to draft our starting QB. Siemian, at best, would be a momentary placeholder.

So... your stance if Tyrod is still a Buffalo Bill in 2018 is clearly going to be that Buffalo was forced to keep him because no one would even offer up a 7th round pick

Don't worry, that's just what he does. He gets owned so much in some of his ridiculous arguments and then just tries to twist everything around as much as possible confusing the issue, pretending like he "won," which oddly enough he seems to care waaaaayyy too much about (so much so that he can't typically see the forest for the trees) and then suddenly turns into some juvenile claiming he won an argument he never won. Sometimes he'll make a good point, though... sometimes

I think assuming the bills have "their guy" and that "their guy" won't change between now and whenever "their guy" is finally decided is a bit foolish. We haven't even had the combine or free agency or interviews with draft prospects or draft prospect visits. I love the situation this team is in right now because I have so much confidence in McBeane deciding whatever they need to do that's right regarding the QB. I don't think they know so rigidly that they'll refuse to change their minds in the future. I'm sure they have someone that they really like right now, but that might change next week.

This... exactly and precisely this! I did it a long time ago for a one year period: 2016. Only the Chargers #1 or #2 WR missed more combined games than Woods and/or Watkins. Taylor has been dealing largely with a makeshift NFL WR corps for the last 2 years.

In 2016, there was only one team (the San Diego Chargers) that was missing it's #1 and/or #2 WR for more games then the Buffalo Bills and Tyrod Taylor.

So confused... Foles sucked in St Louis. What are you arguing?

The problem with your theory of "that ship has sailed" is that McBeane will have a "fair market value" in their heads of how much they expect to give up and in return of such a trade. I agree that's what plan A almost certainly is to do exactly what you said. But if you think plan B, where Buffalo doesn't get what they feel is fair market value and so keeps Taylor for 1 more year while also drafting a QB in the 1st... I think you're being naive.

You'd lose that bet already. He won one with Baltimore

So did Taylor. Taylor was fantastic on 3rd downs in 2017.

Glad you asked that... I almost did, but I just posed $1000 bet because someone believes McDermott and Beane will be fired after the 2018 season if Taylor is still with the Bills

Yes, if they get what they want.... ie: what they feel is fair. And I'm betting McDermott and Beane value Taylor a helluva lot more than some here think they do. If they don't get what they feel is fair, they likely keep him. people are idiots. It's that simple. Hot takes hot takes hot takes!!! God people say such stupid things

I will bet you $1000 right now that if Taylor is the Bills QB in 2018 McDermott and Beane will still be coach and GM in 2019. Hot takes galore!!!

It wasn't a great season from Shady, first of all. Shady had one of the worst YPC years of his career. Defensive turnovers? Did you literally say "defensive turnovers" or, like many, did you say something like "Taylor could only be the QB of a team with a great defense!" ??? I can believe you said the latter, not the former. Our defense got timely defensive turnovers in a lot of games this year. But our Defense was average, at best. Bwahahahaha!!!! And this is the pathetic ridiculousness of this argument. There are people here so neck deep in their own blind hatred of Taylor as a QB that they lose touch with reality. Peterman sucks. It was one awful game... the worst half in a half a century from a QB, along with a pass that is still in the air to the sideline in a playoff game waiting to be picked! If Peterman does one thing this offseason, he better get in the gym with an expert QB like Tom Brady and figure out how the hell to make his arm strong enough to throw simple NFL throws like a sideline out.

Well, if we're going by what's said or not said, Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane have spoken on the subject of Tyrod Taylor twice since the season ended. Once at the year end PC and once at the Senior Bowl. At the year end PC, here's some of what Beane said: "We're not satisfied with the whole offense and it wasn't just about Tyrod. There are a lot of hands in the cookie jar so to speak. Sean and I are going to talk about everything. We know we have to get better on offense, defense and special teams. We are far from a finished product. We have a lot of work to do and we know that. That's going to get started pretty quickly after this press conference." "The great thing about Tyrod is you can never question his work ethic. He does so many good things and gives himself the best chance to succeed on the field, by what he does off." at the senior bowl, here's some of what was said by Beane and then McDermott: Beane: "Tyrod did a lot of good things and you have to look at what are the things he could have done better? What are the other things that happened? Was it receivers running the wrong route? Maybe we could have run a better play. There are just so many different things that you could do, and I’m sure Tyrod knows there are things he could’ve done better. We’re still early in the process. We like Tyrod a lot. He works hard and he does a lot of good things.” McDermott: “I’m not going to get into Tyrod’s future. Like I mentioned earlier, we’re still going through our evaluation. Those decisions will come at some point down the road here. I thought the quarterback position, in particular Tyrod, and then Nate (Peterman), did some good things. I’ve mentioned before the work ethic, the intangibles that Tyrod brings to the table are very much appreciated and a big part of how we did things this year and what we were able to do. I thought he did some good things. So, overall, we’ll continue to evaluate where we are and what’s right for this organization moving forward.” The one thing everyone keeps reaching for as almost the sole evidence that Taylor is obviously gone is his benching, which would go a long way in that argument if Dennison, (the guy who reportedly wanted Peterman rather than Taylor because Peterman was the better fit) wasn't fired. But Dennison was fired, and looking at the part of Beane's quote I underlined, I think he and McDermott knew they wanted him gone at that PC, if not earlier. And the guy we brought in as OC spent an entire year last year working with a very limited run first QB who is a fraction the QB Taylor is. I just think the writing is more on the wall for Taylor to stay than he is to leave, barring a massive trade up in an effort to get one of the top couple prospects.

Why would the Bills release Taylor before upgrading the position? Just brace yourself, I think you're going to be surprised.

No, it wouldn't. Trust the process.

Yeah... you were probably one of those guys who said the Bills would never make the playoffs with Taylor at QB. Whoops!!! No, no it wouldn't. We don't even have to go very far, either. We've already got a worse option on the roster who many were clamoring for at the beginning of the season