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Damn... we aren't "flying him in"... ? Smokescreen? Mind already made up? We love him? We hate him? Which is it?! I want to know!!!

Fair enough, but if we do trade up I really hope it's not for Rosen. Go get Mayfield or Darnold. I'm just not the biggest fan of Rosen.

So interesting... in a way, I completely understand what you're saying here. We haven't had a franchise quarterback and an obvious one since what 1996 with Jim Kelly? We're desperate for one; we're starved for one; we obviously need one. No one would deny that. And yet, we just made the playoffs for the first time in 17 freaking years! And yes, Taylor was a big contributor to making the playoffs. Deny that as one may, he was. Maybe he wasn't as big a contributor as other team's quarterbacks who made the playoffs, but a team's quarterback will almost naturally be the biggest contributor individually on that team and so it's illogical and unreasonable to do what Bills fans have been doing this offseason in this endless condemnation of Taylor. But it's a visceral thing and I get it considering the 2+ decades without a Franchise QB. But do you think the Eagles fans are celebrating less because it wasn't a Franchise QB who won them a Super Bowl? Do you think Jags or Vikings fans are despondent because it wasn't a Franchise QB who got them to a conference championship game? Look but don't settle and don't pay a King's ransom for a guy you don't love. If the Bills trade up, I expect it's because McBeane loves the guy. Otherwise I think they stay put and probably see if they can suck the marrow of success out of Tyrod.

Bwahahahahaha!!! Folks... look at who has the weakest arm... wow... what a bunch crap. Doesn't seem to jibe with reality... in the same way Tyrod was measured as having a weak arm But according to this, Jackson's arm is weaker than Tyrod's... and both their arms are weaker than EVERY other QB measured at the 2018 Combine. Anyone else?

Look, I'm not advocating that as an option number one, but I definitely think it's something they are considering doing very strongly. I really think they like Taylor a lot more than fans and the media believe they do. And they will bank on the uproar over not replacing him (whether warranted or not) dying down in the months to follow the draft, which it largely will especially if the team has seriously upgraded other positions with young players. I want Mayfield. I want Darnold. I guess I'll be excited about Rosen, though I don't like his injury history or his demeanor. We draft those 3 guys, it's because we moved up in the draft and trade Tyrod probably. Super stoked and I'm good with that I just don't think it's all that likely. Have you really examined the age of this team? We're running into trouble in the next few years. So at best, I think we take Jackson or Rudolph at #21 and load up on all our other positions after that. And I really don't think that Beane is seriously in the Foles or Cousins sweepstakes. So, while I understand your feelings... you might need to brace for one more year of Tyrod Taylor.

Thanks for the post BLM. I would seriously be super stoked about the Bills trading up in the draft for a QB. I'd really much rather trade up for Darnold or Mayfield, but I'd be fine with Rosen. I understand why everyone assumes we're trading up for a QB in the draft, but I don't think it happens. McDermott and Beane seem like long term thinkers... I don't think this is the year they necessarily planned on absolutely getting their Franchise QB.

Bradford? Yuck! Rudolph better develop by like week 6 when Bradford has a season ending knee injury, then.

Taylor for another year, build up the roster with young talent with the 4 picks we have in the first 2 rounds and 8 picks we have in the first 5 rounds, re-sign Joe Webb for one more year as our 3rd string QB, and then go for broke for a QB through FA, trade, or draft next year. I think this is something McDermott and Beane are willing to do. The fact that McDermott said "we are not as far along as everyone thinks we are" is a big indicator to me that he wants to build the core of this team, which as of last September was the 2nd oldest roster in the NFL and 9th oldest in terms of starting lineup. This board will go nuts, but I think it's probably option B or option C rather than option "HELL NO!!!" as some think it is.

Didn't the Bills spend a lot of time with someone like Bryce Petty a couple years ago? To the point where they met up with him before the draft and took him out to dinner or something with Pegula? Beane and McDermott are doing their due diligence on the most important position in Football, but I wouldn't just assume that they're so intent on drafting a Franchise QB that they'll give up a bunch of picks to trade up or that they'll just ignore any worries or red flags they might have.

Not the biggest fan of Rosen. I like him more than Allen, but I can see teams questioning his injury history, general demeanor and love for the game. He's behind Mayfield, Darnold, and Jackson for me.

I agree, he probably has some serious plans to use them. But it might be to address all the other aging/weak positions on our team. McDermott keeps on stressing how much this is a process and recently talked about how this team isn't nearly as far along as people think it is. The Bills have 5 draft picks in the 1st 3 rounds, which are the rounds that are supposed to yield NFL starters. As of last September, the Bills had the 2nd oldest roster in the NFL and the 9th oldest starting lineup in the NFL: http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-rosters-ranked-average-age/ http://www.espncricinfo.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/29045/cardinals-have-nfls-oldest-roster-browns-the-youngest I want McBeane to trade up in this draft for Mayfield or maybe Darnold or stay put and draft Jackson. But I think Beane and McDermott have a good amount of flexibility with the Pegulas knowing that we just broke the longest playoff drought in all of American sports in 2017. As much as people would absolutely hate it, flooding this roster with young (and cheap!) talent through the draft and "punting" (as Rodak puts it) the QB position for one more year isn't the worst option for this team. Address your aging team and build up your roster and roll with Taylor for one more year, and then be off the hook next year with regards to him and invest everything you can into that QB with a younger, stronger team in place. It's certainly a possibility.

I don't. I don't think any vet QB is our target for starting QB next year. Less than a week and the new league year starts... finally.

Because Baker Mayfield had one of the best 2 years in college football history passing the football over the last 2 year runs against high level competition, whereas Allen played for a bleh team in a bleh conference and put up bleh numbers. Not saying Allen absolutely will be a bust... but he's a buttload more likely to bust than any of the top 5 or 6 prospects.

Okay, but he lasted 4 years, not 2, unlike what Coach Tuesday said. Almost zero percent chance Beane is fired after this season.

Didn't Whaley last 4 years with EJ and Taylor?

I think if we draft Jackson there's going to be a faction of this board up in arms about how Jackson is just Taylor 2.0 and McBeane failed before even seeing him play. Gonna be hilarious if he's who we draft... and I think he's our most likely pick And FTR, I want Mayfield then Darnold then Jackson then Rosen then Rudolph then Allen... in that order.

Yep... clearly you're upset... or Josh Allen's mommy.

Honestly... I'm starting to wonder if he's the first QB off the board

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/08/baker-mayfield-draft-browns-jets-cardinals-dolphins-saints-giants-redskins-chargers-bills-broncos Baker Mayfield’s 10 Potential Landing Spots 8. Buffalo BillsWhere they pick in Round 1: Nos. 21 and 22Key player: Brandon Beane, general managerI could see head coach Sean McDermott falling in love with Mayfield’s origin story—the two-time walk-on who won the Heisman. New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll oversaw a run-heavy offense as Alabama’s coordinator last year but has a great deal of familiarity with the offensive concepts employed at Oklahoma and across the college football landscape. In McDermott’s first year in Buffalo’s war room, they demonstrated a willingness to deal picks at any juncture, in any direction, moving back 17 picks in the first round, then moving up seven picks in the second round to draft wide receiver Zay Jones, and moving up 12 picks into the bottom of the second round to select offensive lineman Dion Dawkins. If they’re kicking themselves for not using last year’s 10th overall pick (traded to Kansas City) on Patrick Mahomes, they can use the capital acquired in that deal to trade up and draft another former Texas Tech quarterback in Mayfield. Tyrod Taylor said in January the team has yet to inform him of his status going into 2018, but it’s safe to assume they’re in the market for a replacement after benching him for Nathan Peterman at one point last season.

You seem upset. Why?

Mayfield isn't a scramble first guy... so I still don't get it.

Well, luckily that's why you have coaches. Favre pretty adamantly and publicly refused to "teach" or "mentor" Rodgers while he was the backup. Taylor wouldn't be doing any teaching... he wouldn't have to. But I don't think Allen will ever be a Franchise QB, no matter who's teaching him.

People here have been doing this ever since Beane got here as an argument for the next QB we draft. Beane may have said that nearly a year ago, but people change their minds. Or better yet, I don't think he said or meant that he would only exclusively consider a pocket QB.

I heard Colin Cowherd today on his radio show do a top 10 trade for the 49ers at #9 with Buffalo so we could move up. He had us draft Allen... which I would be disgusted with and I really really don't think or want to happen. But if we did that and drafted Mayfield... super stoked!!! And I just bothered looking at Jimmy Johnson's draft chart... I think they would trade back to us for both our firsts since the 9th pick is worth 1350 and the 21st and 22nd picks are worth 1580. You can argue that's overpaying, but considering we'd still have 2 2nd rounders, 2 5th rounders and a 3rd and 4th round pick, I'd do it if we could ensure landing Mayfield.

This all just has to be a smokescreen. I really just can't believe a smart NFL GM, as I hope and believe Beane is, would make this mistake again in the same way the Raiders did with Jamarcus Russell or the Titans did with Locker or we did with Manuel or etc.... May field!!! May field!!! May field!!! May field!!!