transplantbillsfan

It's not nuts at all, actually. You just seem a little out of touch with reality. In order for the Eagles to move up from #8 to #2, it cost them their 1st, 3rd & 4th in 2016 PLUS their 1st in 2017 PLUS their 1st in 2018. And it doesn't appear as though they mortgaged their future either considering... ya know... Super Bowl

Do you seriously think that Beane busted his hump to acquire all those picks in order to pick a Center and an LB in the 1st round of this draft? If Beane and McDermott don't get one of the 2 or 3 QBs they feel strongly about, this draft will be a failure.

God I hope so... this would bode well for the acquisition of Mayfield

Dorsey could almost justify the move if he truly likes a QB other than Darnold like Allen or Mayfield a lot considering he's still got the 4th pick and he'd pick up 2 more 1st rounders this year alone

Ya know I really think this just needs to happen soon. Sweetening the pot for the Giants offering both of our 1sts and both of our 2nds should do it. Or if Darnold is truly the guy we covet, add next year's 1st and this year's 3rd to that pot for the Browns at #1. Though ideally we wait until draft day and watch Mayfield slide out of the top 5 and just throw both of our 1sts to the Colts in a trade up to 6... but damn... this waiting is gonna kill me!!!

God... yes it was... period. We would have had to go 0-16 to beat the Browns out for the #1 choice

Darnold, Mayfield, or Jackson. These are the 3 QBs I believe we should target. The fact that Mayock likes Allen so much is a bit disconcerting.

Okay... time to offer more than you want to offer to get to #2 or #1... pretty simple.

Indy, I love ya, but take like a 4 or 5 week break from the board leading up to the draft. It's only going to get worse here in the next few weeks in terms of QB prospect talk.

It's the nature of message boards now... has been for quite some time now. Regardless of whether people present their opinions as facts, they are almost always very obviously merely opinion.

Yes yes yes yes!!! Those 4 QBs are the QBs I'm most excited about! And honestly I'll even be fine if we traded up a couple spots for Jackson. It's seriously baffling me that Allen has somehow been thrust unanimously in front of Jackson.

I agree... and I hope this combine/measurable process is pushing him down the draft a little so we can draft him. There won't be the same fanfare nationally for Buffalo if we draft Mayfield as there would be if we drafted Darnold or Rosen, but I really think Mayfield is going to be the best QB in this class.

You keep saying these same things in posts where people are talking about prospects. Why are you so frustrated that people here have opinions on how successful certain prospects will or won't be in the NFL?

If we draft Allen, I'm going to have more confidence in AJ McCarron becoming our Franchise QB than Josh Allen.

No way... Stafford was sooOOooo much better in college. And Favre played college ball 30 years ago when the game wasn't nearly as QB friendly... and he was a 2nd round pick. Nope.

Weird... you bring up a QB on another team in a thread about our future QB... Why? oh... and... You were also on the EJ train, too. But I'll thank you for the post, nonetheless ???? black population of less than 1%??? Where did that analyzing lead you??? Favre also played in the 80s in college... and he was a 2nd round pick, not a top 10 pick as Allen is projected.

EJ had all the physical tools and the willingness to work hard. God, I just looked at the scouting reports for both Allen and Manuel and even those are much too similar to be comfortable drafting him. Stafford was significantly more successful than Allen against a significantly higher level of competition. Forgetting scouting reports for a moment... Stafford was incredibly successful and got better every single year at a big time school in a big time conference and ALSO had all the physical attributes. Allen regressed at a small school against crappy competition.

Exactly!!! This is just head-scratching!!! My question for absolutely ANYONE is whether there's EVER been a QB playing for a relatively small school like Wyoming who didn't dominate the college competition who's been successful at the NFL level? Seriously... has that EVER happened? Big Ben dominated his lesser competition in college. So did Flacco. So did Wentz. Allen... not so much... and that's being generous.

This is all fine and dandy, the problem is he's going to be a high 1st round draft pick (unless there's been a whooOOOoooolllee lotta smokescreening, which wouldn't surprise me), rather than a mid round pick, which is where project QBs who are raw and need a ton of good coaching to reach their full potential are generally drafted... or should be. And one would think our fan base learned that from the last dude we overdrafted in the 1st round.

Probably because he resembles EJ Manuel... raw but with all the physical attributes to play the position.

Waiting for our trade up to #2, but if it doesn't happen, I think this is what happens. And I'll be excited about Jackson, too.

No crap. I've been saying that the whole time. But why would I want him? ...or never make it to the NFL

Seriously. I know that people here really believe in him... why? Plenty of past NFL players have been drafted for physical potential (Ryan Leaf, RG3, Jamarcus Russell, Blaine Gabbert, Blake Bortles, etc) and have simply flamed out. I've never seen a college QB so devoid of college production being propped up this much based off of what I can only believe to be purely physical potential. It's head scratching and infuriating because this guy looks like a project 2nd or 3rd round QB at best, to me. What are people focused on? Throws he can make??? Haven't we had enough of these project QBs that are "balls of clay" for us to mold? There's something I'm missing. What is it? I know there isn't a single QB in the NFL HOF with his forgettable production from a second-rate college football program like Wyoming. Is he supposedly going to break that trend? What the hell... someone explain this to me so I can get behind him sooner rather than later if we draft him... hopefully, we don't. EDIT: Changed the title since people think this is still an ongoing conversation. I'm already convinced he'll be better than I thought. I hated the pick when it happened... absolutely loathed it. But you can all be happy because my love of previous Bills QBs has never actually panned out, so me hating this pick (initially, now I'm pretty good with it) is a great sign for us Bills fans because Allen will likely be our savior. You're welcome

Mayfield

Well this is a nice surprise... you and I prioritize the QBs in this class in almost exactly the same way