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Love it. Seems realistic. Honestly, I have ZERO knowledge of any college players outside the prospects being talked about as 1st rounders, so I'm hoping Beane and McDermott do what they did last year and draft well in later rounds (Milano & Dawkins) while also sniffing around the league for scraps from other teams who might be diamonds in the rough (Deonte Thompson, Travaris Cadet, Marcus Murphy, etc.) and maybe some of our other young hopefuls come along this year and really surprise us (Zay Jones, Brandon Reilly, Rod Streater, Adolphus Washington, John Miller, Ryan Groy, etc.) and we become a perfect storm coming together for a 2018 Super Bowl run Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?

This is pretty universally viewed as one of the strongest, most top-heavy QB drafts maybe since the 1983 draft. 4 QBs are almost certainly going in the top 10. 5 QBs are almost certainly going in the 1st round. Yet, no one can agree on who the absolute best, can't-miss guy is, which is what makes this so interesting and why the conversation is so persistent. All these guys have their flaws. And to top it off, while the Bills aren't currently in position to get one of the 3 or 4 best QBs in this draft, Beane and McDermott almost perfectly played their hands since last year's draft by accumulating more draft capital in the first 3 rounds than any other NFL team. The Buffalo Bills will almost certainly be trading up in order to draft our first Franchise QB in 22 years. There's a reason this is justifiably a serious and heavily discussed topic.

Yeah, he can fall to 12. But that very phrasing is exactly why we need to trade up in the draft. A lot of things can happen with these QBs, but one thing is for sure, we absolutely need to draft a QB in this draft as we only have 2 QBs on our roster. And on top of that, I don't think any sane person would call Peterman or McCarron our future Franchise QB, so we should be doing everything we can to get one. We have more draft capital than maybe we've ever had. Now is the time.

Well... I've always thought it was childish to report other posters... like going and telling mommy. But I guess from now on when Thurm attacks me or derails the conversation by bringing up old baggage that isn't remotely relevant to the conversation, I'll report the post to the mods. I understand completely. And agree. I changed my Jordan Palmer post to more fully reflect what I meant. Bad NFL QBs are the guys who often grow into good analysts, media personalities, and even "gurus" for some reason. And it's ironic. Saying the same thing, just bringing up the other obvious example from the thread

Wouldn't the same principal apply for Orlovsky, then?

Makes sense, I will no longer say a single word to Thurm on this board unless he addresses me directly. Good enough? Jordan Palmer... I'm not saying you're the one glorifying him, necessarily. I'm saying that bad NFL QBs seem to be the ones who end up being pundits, gurus, analysts, and experts.

Well... what about the irony of a guy who lasted 6 years in the NFL and threw 18 regular season passes as some new "QB guru" to be glorified?

This was the game I posted earlier in this thread from youtube. You can watch every throw from it. And this was a play that jumped out at me. I feel like all of Allen's most glaring weaknesses are the same glaring weaknesses of the guy we just traded. Actually, seems to be the weakness of the last two QBs we got rid of. Go to separate rooms until you can get along? Are your preschoolers communicating via teleconference or telepathically? Or when do you determine that they can get along if they aren't even interacting?

Been trying to talk about Josh Allen in this Josh Allen thread. Instead, I keep getting attacked by that arrogant douche. Bullies don't get free hall passes.

"We get it" Who's this "we," Thurm? You hearing voices again? You and I are the only ones talking about this... well, actually you're the only one talking about me and Tyrod in a thread you created that has to do with Josh Allen. It's just weird. And you seem even more miserable than you normally are. Why is that? I hope you're keeping your Internet self out of your day-to-day personal self, otherwise you're probably just all alone having been abandoned after everyone you know realizes you have unmatched arrogance and stubbornness, extreme tunnel vision, no sense of humor and are probably homophobic. I always thought you were just one of the Eeyores in the guise of someone reasonable on this message board, but if you even half resemble your Internet self in real life... good God help your family and friends!

Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold, please.

I watched and listened to this... it was an unreal joke. Sam Darnold apparently won't be any worse than Andrew Luck and Baker Mayfield won't be any better than Case Keenum in his world. Right after the segment, it was nice to have Joel Platt come on and basically call him an idiot very nicely. That's all he's trying to be. He's a severe homer who throws out a bunch of idiotic stuff to get ratings. I'll admit it's fun to listen to sometimes, but only because of the sheer stupidity of what he often says. You're being awfully generous giving him Wingo there...

Virtually exactly what I think should happen. Exactly the amount I think it should cost. And considering we acquired our extra 1st rounder from a combination of trading down to 27 last year while still drafting a guy with top 10 worthy production, trading a Tackle who never saw the field with the new regime, our extra 2nd rounder trading a talented but oft-injured WR who would have cost a fortune to keep at this point and never saw the field with the new regime, and our extra 3rd rounder trading a QB the new regime inherited and clearly wanted to upgrade on for a price most seem to agree was well above market value, sending those picks to the Giants to get our Franchise QB for the next 15-20 years is something everyone should be willing, if not eager to do That's actually a very fair value for the 2nd pick, believe it or not. We kinda do. Is there any other team with 6 picks in the first 3 rounds???

I would take Andy Dalton over RG3.

But not nearly as much bust as Allen, either, IMO

Love it... only jersey I currently own

Well... I almost completely agree with everything he says. But I like Rudolph better than Allen... primarily because of Allen's "boom or bust" draftability.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! "The more important thing they have in common is the arbitrary thing I brought up, not the arbitrary thing you brought up!!!"

I'm still waiting for your list on all those things I was wrong about. The bold I was wrong about, though I said there was one exception to Taylor being back as our starting QB for another year: Beane and McDermott get a trade offer they can't refuse so they can use that collateral to go up in the draft. And hey, look what happened So you go ahead and tell me all those things I've been wrong about. You listed one. And I was wrong with my overall prediction, but right in the underlying ones. But go ahead. Keep searching. Keep obsessing over Tyrod. Keep obsessing over me. It's flattering. Really, it is

Jesus this is idiotic. Yes, we might draft Jackson. But your theory for motives is nuts.

I think Mayfield is 100% capable of starting from week 1. And in much the way he won the a starting QB job at a DI school as a walk-on, I expect he'd come in and be starting by mid-season if not from week 1.

They were all drafted over a decade ago... ? Quick question: who are all the QBs of the NFL who will dominate the league for the next decade and be thrust into that "elite QB" conversation, if they aren't already there? Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson, surely. Matt Ryan? Stafford? Carr? Newton? Wentz? Goff? Prescott? Mariota? What do they all have in common? All drafted within the last 10 years. All started year 1... a few sat a handful of games, but all were under center taking fire by the end of their rookie years. It's a new league. What Kansas City did last year was the exception to the new norm. And they had the luxury of doing it with a pretty good starter at QB.

I really really think 2 things are happening here: 1) Everyone watched Carson Wentz turn into an overnight superstar with the Eagles this year having run the same system and been in a pro-style offense like Allen... actually virtually the exact same offense as Allen against similar competition. and 2) Allen was very good (but not great) in 2016 and was being seriously pumped up by pundits and the media as being one of the headliners to watch as a QB prospect for this draft. He's obviously one of the most physically gifted QBs in years, so it feels easy to get on the hype train early. Pundits and media hate being wrong, so despite a pretty wildly disappointing 2017 season, plenty of excuses are being pushed for him, so much so that he's being propped up as one of the top QBs in a strong QB class in a way that I don't think has ever happened historically in the draft.

Here, take the test: https://footballiqscore.com/ Tell us how you do and what relevance analogies and algebra have to playing QB in the NFL. Mahalo! I'd laugh, but it appears to be reaching that point. Rosen almost doesn't even look like an option to me anymore, unless McDermott says from the start he's going to sit and learn for a year rather than his consistent "competition at every position" narrative. I still want Baker Mayfield the most and Darnold the 2nd most. Considering my previous anxiety over Rosen in general combined with both Wood and Incognito retiring and the likelihood that we'll have to trade up to #2 to get Rosen, thus giving up draft picks we could have used to otherwise bolster the OL that would protect the statuesque UCLA product, I think I'd be happier drafting Jackson at #12 than trading into the top 5 for Rosen rather than Mayfield or Darnold. How old are you?

And if the top 4 QBs are gone by 6?