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I feel like pretty much everyone (other than Nick Wright) has come around on JA17 being a generational QB. PFF hated him. Now they love him. Aaron Schatz pre-2018-draft wrote scathing articles about him. He was the only person to give a 1st place vote for MVP for Allen. I'm just frustrated for Allen more than I even am for myself--and I'm pretty freaking frustrated!!! Josh Allen is not a better QB than Patrick Mahomes. But if the Bills drafted Patrick Mahomes in 2017 and the Chiefs drafted Josh Allen in 2018, I firmly believe the Chiefs would have won as many Super Bowls or more... I honestly think more. And I think the Bills would have been worse. I realize that makes me a homer... but I hope you understand that I simultaneously believe that Patrick Mahomes is better than Josh and is inarguably the best QB in the NFL. I just hope and pray as a frustrated WNYer and as one empathetic to the ultimate underdog in JA17 that in a decade that conversation is arguable.

Can we stop with the releasing or trading Diggs talk already? It's not happening. Diggs is gonna be Diggs for the media. I think he just likes making the media suffer. Unfortunately, it also means Bills fans suffer... but for him it's about the media, not Bills fans. By all reports with the Bills beat reporters, he stuck around in the locker room and was one of the last to leave hanging out with the guys on locker room cleanout day and was in good spirits. Diggs is guaranteed here next year and probably the year after, too.

Cut one. Paycut for the other to be our full time returner. If we knew Hines were going to be healthy I'd prefer to keep him and cut Harty since we only have Cook on the roster at RB right now and I really just want an infusion of new blood in the WR room. My bold prediction for next season as of this moment is that either Isabella or Hamler make the roster next season and actually contribute.

Maybe... but I don't know. It's kinda my offseason resolution to stop listening to the national talking heads, but how many of them ever actually say that Josh is better? None of them are afraid to consistently talk about Mahomes being the best QB in the NFL (and rightly so), but you don't really hear them separate that next tier of Elite QBs in Allen, Burrow & Lamar. The only one who consistently does is that Bills Troll Nick Wright, who always has Lamar ahead of Allen

So average it out if you want. How about Passer Rating? Josh Allen has a Passer Rating of exactly 100 in those 10 games. Lamar's is 75.7. And other people brought up MVP votes, I didn't. OP was more just a springboard for discussion.

Here are the 2023 MVP voters: Emmanuel Acho, FS1 Greg Auman, Fox Sports Howard Balzer, PHNX radio Jarrett Bell, USA Today Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press Tom Brady, Fox Sports Tedy Bruschi, ESPN Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston Charles Davis, CBS Sports Nate Davis, USA Today Howard Deneroff, Westwood One Tony Dungy, NBC Sports Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia Rich Gannon, SiriusXM Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports Lindsay Jones, The Ringer Mike Jones, The Athletic Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network Ira Kaufman, JoeBucsFan(dot)com Mina Kimes, ESPN Peter King, NBC Sports Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM Jeff Legwold, ESPN Jim Miller, SiriusXM Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus Bruce Murray, SiriusXM Gary Myers, NFL author Laura Okmin, Fox Sports Dan Orlovsky, ESPN Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM Dan Pompei, The Athletic Nora Princiotti, The Ringer Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports Dianna Russini, The Athletic Mike Sando, The Athletic Aaron Schatz, FTN Network Adam Schein, CBS Sports Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel Chris Simms, NBC Sports Armando Salguero, Outkick(dot)com Mike Tirico, NBC Sports Ben Volin, Boston Globe Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

Agreed... but what Nolan is saying--and he's right--is that those are the things MVP voters value and in that order. And we just have to understand and accept that it won't likely change. I actually understand why they do it at the end of the regular season. The MVP would overwhelmingly always be the same as Super Bowl MVP. Mahomes shouldn't have been league MVP this year and voters would have been biased by his postseason and would have given it to him.

Every other 2 time winner is in the HOF Bruce Nolan agrees with you https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2024/2/11/24069190/opinion-mvp-voters-like-fans-overall-think-wins-are-a-qb-stat-ravens-lamar-jackson-bills-josh-allen He ranks the priorities for MVP voters in the following order: #1- Most wins in Conference #2- Most wins head to head against other MVP candidates #3- QB efficiency #4- Raw stats 7 years in a row that the MVP winner has been the best team in the AFC or NFC record wise.

Yeah... Greg is all but guaranteeing Diggs is on the team through the 2026 season because of how much we would still owe him if we released him before then.

It is... it's just inaccurate.

Where are you getting your numbers? Lamar Jackson fumbled the ball 11 times and lost 6 fumbles this year, not 2.

I've become a terrible Cuse fan... what will it take for SU to get into the tourney??? Not even a bubble team right now.

Josh... 5-5 playoff record 2,723 yards passing 21 touchdowns 4 interceptions 563 yards rushing 5 rushing TDs . Jackson... 2-4 playoff record 1,324 yards passing 6 touchdowns 6 interceptions 521 yards rushing 3 rushing TDs. Lamar, sadly, pretty much ensured (somehow) he will be in the HOF as a 2 time League MVP. Josh (somehow) still has work he's gotta do to be considered. Discuss...

This offseason more than any offseason I think I'm going to avoid all those shows and stick to just Bills podcasts only. There's plenty of Bills-only content. I know some might view this to be myopic, but I think the national media ultimately has some sort of weird "Bills fatigue" because they've been expecting us to get over the hump for the last few years and we haven't. So now, instead of looking at the NFL and rationally understanding that the Bills still have one of the best players in the NFL at the QB position (inarguably top 5, but I think he really sits alone at #2) and will always have a shot at hoisting a trophy, they decide that because we haven't done it, we'll never do it... so let's give some other fanbases time in the spotlight. It's fine by me. With the dominance of the Chiefs in terms of Championships recently, I think they're just struggling for viewers and content.

Josh friggin carried the Bills on his back against the Chiefs. While the Bills receivers couldn't catch the ball, Chiefs receivers like MVS who had been notorious during the season for dropping passes were actually catching them. The Chiefs ran 47 plays total. Josh Allen himself accounted for 51 plays for the Bills with 39 passes and 12 rushes. Allen had more yards than Mahomes and more TDs than Mahomes. It's really not Allen who has to fix anything. The team needs to get a better WR corps and Bass needs to get out of his own head. Patrick Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL. Josh Allen is the 2nd best QB (and player) in the NFL. And that's it. I think those 2 players are in a class of their own. And if the ball bounces for Buffalo a little better in the upcoming seasons, even that narrative might change.

I actually think this would be a good trade if the 2 teams would do it. New environment for both guys. Elam going to a team that plays mostly man. Burks going to a team with an Elite QB and a creative OC who can find ways to get him the ball in space.

Yes, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't really need the money. He got $8m of his just over $11m already from Pittsburgh.

I would like them to sign him to an extension this offseason, because I think yes. If he plays as well or better next season than he did this season, he's going to cost $4 or $5 million more per season if we sign him now.

Ask me in 10 years

He's a backup. He's better than Kyle Allen. He'd also come probably for the vet minimum because I think Pittsburgh already pay him. Personally, I think Kyle Allen is back because of how close he is with Josh, but I'd love getting Mitch instead of Kyle. People who think a backup QB can realistically be a starting level NFL QB are nuts.

The paycut is almost inevitable. I very, very highly doubt we cut him. By the way... you guys seem to forget that in the NFL teams can't actually cut players who are recovering from injuries. In order to cut him, he'd have to pass a physical. So if people thinking we're doing this to become "CAP compliant," it's not happening before the mid March deadline when the new NFL calendar year starts. And also, if he passes a physical that early... why cut him??? And if he can't pass the physical that early, but does by training camp, you're cutting a healthy player and creating a void you'll have to fill with whatever scraps are leftover from FA or are cut late in TC.

The Tre White of the first 4 games of 2024 was pretty darn close to being back to the old Tre White, actually. Even 80% of the old Tre White you don't cut.

The technique has already worked and quickly for a number of players. Plus the team only saves about $6m if they cut him. Doubt you find a replacement corner at his level for that money

The more I read about this "anchoring" technique to heal a torn achilles... no. Tre might actually be participating fully in the minicamp in a couple months. I think we restructure his deal, which would be smart, but if we get a fully healthy Tre White by minicamp, maybe McDermott and Babbich can transition Benford or Douglas to Safety.