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Pretty objective actually. I broke it down by simply catchable vs uncatchable for the WR. Ball within reach of the hands or not. No judgment on ball placement... just if it was a catchable football or not. And ultimately Allen threw a LOWER percentage of uncatchable footballs than some surprising rookie QBs. Basically, Allen looked like every other promising 1st round rookie QB starting in year 1. I can't speak for the national pundits other than to say it's hard for anyone to admit they were wrong and it's even harder when it's on national TV. Just listen to Troy Aikman's analysis of Allen as he commentated on him during the KC game. Depends on what you mean by "comparing." If it relates to an expectation of where Allen should already be, it's silly. If it's the target, it's fine. But Allen’s distance to that target was really no different than your typical highly touted rookie QB as far as accuracy was concerned. Decision making was another matter, and THAT’S been his most drastic improvement, not accuracy.

As stated already, this simply isn't true.

Compared with his peer group, which would be highly drafted rookie QBs starting in year 1, Allen’s accuracy was just fine. Comparing rookie Allen with Tom Brady or Drew Brees is silly.

As someone who watched every single rookie pass from Allen multiple times and then also watched every single rookie pass by Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz and Jared Goff, I can tell you that Josh Allen’s accuracy was just fine if you're comparing him to his peer group of other 1st round QBs starting in the NFL in their 1st year. The narrative that he has more to fix in the area of accuracy than other highly touted rookie NFL QBs after their rookie season was incorrect.

Felt deserving of its own thread. Like many I hated the pick when we got him, but quickly saw what he could be. And as someone who watched and scrutinized EVERY snap of Allen’s (and Mayfield's and Rosen's and Darnold's and Jackson's and Wentz's and Watson's and Goff's) rookie year, I really got sick of all the arguments over Allen being inaccurate when decision making is what was (and still is, at times) his problem. His accuracy has improved, but he was accurate even as a rookie. Anyway, enjoy... https://theathletic.com/2204066/2020/11/19/josh-allen-buffalo-bills?source=user-shared-article When Derek Anderson got to Buffalo in October 2018, the Bills’ quarterback room was in disarray. ... Before long, though, Allen didn’t make Anderson feel old at all. It was the opposite. Watching the way Allen loved everything about being in the building was contagious. “He gave me new life,” Anderson said. “He energized me and made me love the game more.” ... Yet so much of what Allen has shown in 2020 was there in flashes in 2018. And so much of what happened in 2018 helped make him the quarterback he is in 2020. ... But those who were there saw the hints of greatness in Allen. Only four other offensive players from the 2018 Bills are left on the 2020 team. Anderson, who retired after the 2018 season because of a concussion he suffered that year, watches every game closely. Anderson’s son loves to cheer for his friend Josh, so the Bills games are on every Sunday in the Anderson house. And because of how quickly Anderson developed a friendship with Allen and Matt Barkley, who joined the quarterback room a few weeks after Anderson, he still FaceTimes them after games and chats with offensive coordinator Brian Daboll on a weekly basis. He’s seen Allen’s breakout year through the perspective of someone who saw his struggles in 2018. “He’s done a great job of knowing when a play is over, getting the ball down to guys underneath and not really having the feeling that he’s got to be the guy that always makes the play,” Anderson said. “I think that’s kind of been the biggest thing I’ve seen over the past couple of years is taking the easy completions, taking the shots when they’re there and protecting the football.” ... Isaiah McKenzie, another midseason pickup in 2018, is the only receiver left on the roster from Allen’s rookie season. As Beane has aggressively added talent to that position group, McKenzie has found a way to survive and get a front row seat to Allen’s development. After Allen’s 400-yard, four-touchdown game against the Seahawks, McKenzie said Allen looks like a completely different quarterback than the one he saw when he arrived in Buffalo. “The mistakes he made in 2018 and 2019, you don’t see those anymore,” McKenzie said. “He’s a whole new person. It’s the same Josh, but it’s just like his decision making is way better. He’s doing things with the ball that I haven’t see a lot of quarterbacks do.” ... What Anderson tried to instill in Allen was work habits. It’s not that Allen wasn’t a willing worker early in his career but he didn’t necessarily know how to work. Preparing for games in the Mountain West is different than being an NFL quarterback. Talent can’t carry you as far in the NFL as it can in college. By the time he got to Buffalo, Anderson had established a preparation routine that worked for him. He always made sure he was among the first players in the building and he was always at least one day ahead on the plays and concepts the team would be working on during practice. He would get to the building first, work out and have watched at least 45 minutes of film before his teammates arrived. At that point in his career, Anderson had a feel for what it meant to be a successful mentor. He took notes on what worked during Newton’s rookie season in Carolina. He wasted no time relaying those to Allen, because he saw the same special potential if Allen got the right guidance. ... The toughness and leadership presented themselves early. Teammates still talk about when he hurdled over Anthony Barr in the Bills’ upset win over Minnesota early in his rookie season. McKenzie points to the road game against the Dolphins in which Allen totaled four touchdowns in a narrow loss as the first hint that he could be Buffalo’s guy. ... Expecting improvement is one thing, but Allen’s rise has been meteoric. In his first two NFL seasons, Allen didn’t throw for 300 yards in a game once. He’s done it five times this season. His completion percentage has jumped 15.6 percentage points from his rookie season. Even his advanced metrics like DVOA, QBR and PFF grade have all taken substantial jumps. He’s improved throwing the ball to all three levels of the field. Anderson remembers when Allen couldn’t hit the easy screen throws in 2018. This season, Allen has 13 touchdowns on passes thrown within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

Looks like that's what they're grooming Epenesa to be

I can see this is going to turn into a 10 page discussion debating Buffalo cuisine rather than talking about the Diggs interview

I think playoff positioning might be less important this year than any other year except for the #1 seed, but yeah, we could.

He's entertaining. I actually didn't hear the segment where he said Josh outplayed Kyler. Do you know what he said? Was this on Monday? In his top 10 rankings on Tuesday he put the Cards at 10 (I think) and the Bills at 5, but he didn't really talk at all about Josh as the reason for the Bills being at 5. I think it's fair to say that Cowherd doesn't talk very much about Josh and it's probably because he was so critical of him for a good length of time. That was Diggs? I thought it was Davis. I can't even tell from looking at the image.

Me too. All our night games start between 3-3:30 Hawaiian time. I don't have to feel guilty about drinking at that time

Luckily we play them in Buffalo

Just to be clear... They don't "infect" another poor site. They created it.

He's so far lost it's ridiculous. I really did think he'd be honorable enough to abide by the terms of our bet. I know I would have if I lost. Silly me for thinking the better of people. Right now he's over there quoting me and mentioning me constantly calling me the enemy. For every time he posts or quotes me, I respond by asking if he'll abide by the terms of the bet yet and give a new Biden image every time. The funny thing is: the people over there actually believe he's credible and knowledgeable

Just to update y'all: DR has officially refused to abide by the terms of our 18 month old bet. I'll just keep reminding him that he's a dishonest, hypocrital coward. And I'll let him know you all said hi

He does lead the league in passing yards, but he's played 1 more game than many QBs. He's 6th in passing yards per game, so statistically he'll probably be 5th-7th by next Tuesday.

Let's just pause to appreciate the following. Among all NFL QBs, Josh Allen: 8th in completion percentage 6th in TD Passes 8th in YPA 6th in YPG (passing only) 8th in Passe Rating 5th in Total Qbr Year 3 and Josh Allen is a top 10 NFL QB. Let's just enjoy this.

The Bills ultimately ride or die with Allen. I'm sick of our run game already. It's completely ineffective and pointless. Moss and Singletary gained 35 yards on 11 carries, but all those yards came on 3 carries... the other 8 carries gained a net of ZERO yards. The running game needs to be a threat if it's to benefit the offense. Ours is abysmal. Just run the spread formation with Allen every play in shotgun and run it no-huddle. Bring the RB back for protection when needed and the OCCASIONAL handoff. Let Allen win or lose the games with his arm (and legs occasionally) and just accept that's the way it has to be. Handing off to Singletary and Moss just seems such a waste of a down and gets us behind the sticks too often. It's pretty obvious this team wins and loses with Allen at this point. Just accept that and make that clear in the game planning.

I don't even know what to say. I'm sure we all thought we'd win after that TD pass to Diggs. Just so disheartened. All we can do is move on and use the bye to get healthy and get better. This game really doesn't swing the needle one way or another for Allen. Great final drive, but the INTs were no good, and while one looked like miscommunication, the other appeared to be on Allen. I don't know why we still bother with the run game as much as we do. Just go 5 wide and let Allen throw it and occasionally run the draw play to keep the D honest. Onto LA

Sure looks like @westside2 trying to get kicked off the board so he can go over to the other board where his Trump-lovin friends are and complain about how unfair PPP is.

Yep. That's making DR look like a little girl. This isn't true. Trump cares a lot about his cult members. They're the ones giving him money right now foolishly to fund his lawsuits while not reading the fine print that the Trump campaign can use those monies to pay off campaign debt. Basically Trump is scamming his own supporters. He's just that vile and they're just that foolish.

DR actually took me up on that bet regarding this election 18 months ago. The other day he got angry at me and called me his enemy. I already posted his avatar publicly for all to see as well as through PM and he told me to stop PMing him. I want to see if he switches his avatar finally by January 20th. These people really are so far down the damn rabbit hole they're never coming out. There's no legitimate President but Trump to them. Morons.