BullBuchanan

Lottery systems are just awful. I really don't think tanking is something worth stopping. It doesn't really happen in football to begin with. the past couple of years a team with a shot at a top pick won a meaningless game at the end of the year to ruin their spot. On top of that, the teams that tank seem to use it to benefit themselves directly via adding a critical player like a QB, so what's the harm? The whole point of the NFL draft is to create parity as much as possible, and with the exception of Tom Brady screwing it up, the league does a pretty good job of it compared to other sports. I don't think there's any other sport where it's as critical to have one single great player at a position, more than it is for an NFL team to have an elite quarterback. Due to the NFL's own making of pushing a passing league, it's going to be even more important than ever. If a team wants to lose so they can win later, I say let em. Of course, they won't since the NFL decided to become bedfellows with Vegas.

That's exactly what we do that where I work. We also have a formalized rubric of criteria & competencies we grade against.

And what changes those belief structures? Without legislation, Schools would have remained segregated (Brown vs The Board of Education), and Rosa Parks would have been found guilty. Are we going to say that was result of society pushing for those changes? That same society that was part of the Little Rock 9 two years later, the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X a few years later. When Brown vs The Board of education was passed, 60% of those surveyed by Gallup supported the ruling - this is less than current support for universal healthcare, tuition-free college, and legalization of cannabis at the federal level. Maybe you can argue that counts as support by society, but when the opposition to support brings serious consequences to those that do, I'd argue it's legal structure that gives social movements the freedom to advance their cause further. Of course it takes two to tango. If you don't have some social support behind social policy, you'll have problems. I'm not suggesting that just because you make something a policy that everyone will subscribe to it immediately, but without that framework, it becomes much harder for progress to me made. So, there is historical precedent and current statistics that support this. On the other side of the argument it seems that the thought is "well, people are just going to fake it anyway" (when the argument comes with the best of intentions - there are far worse).

I mean that's extremely disingenuous. We currently have 1 black head coach, but we have at least 3 minority coaches who are part of the Rooney rule (Saleh, Rivera) and we've had 5x more black head coaches in the 20 years Since the Rooney rule than the 70 years that preceded it. It took until 1989 for Art Shell to be the first black coach - 33 years ago. That's insane. From then until the Rooney rule was enacted 13 years later there were a total of 3.

Tampa is the most logical spot if Arians stays. Denver, Washington, New Orleans, and Carolina all need help too

And that change through society is typically brought on by rules that form as a catalyst. When you look at anything from marriage equality to cannabis legalization, it typically takes something to be formalized first before everyone realizes that it isn't so bad after all. Catalysts can happen outside of formal acceptance, but it's often what sets off the chain reaction. The Rooney Rule didn't get the first minority coach hired, it just provided a catalyst for it to happen more often. While it hasn't been as successful as it could be, 3 of the 20 black head coaches in NFL history came in the 70 years prior to the rule while the remaining group came int he last 20 years. That's to say nothing of the much more prevalent assistant roles. Would Byron Leftwich hold the same role 30 years ago?

28 pages of examples for why the Rooney rule exists. Cool.

Whoever this year's TJ Watt is. Preferably TJ Watt.

The Bengals won't be in a good cap situation for very long. They've got 2 more years of a good cap situation before Burrow, Hendrickson, Mixon, Higgins and Boyd are all due. In all likelihood, they'll have to extend most of them after next season. If I had to pick 1 team to regress next year, it would be them. They're playing very hot right now, and that's the most important trait in the playoffs, but it wouldn't shock me if they missed the tournament entirely next season.

It's pretty easily one of the biggest blunders in franchise history. That was put to rest years ago. Josh Allen could became the single greatest athlete in the past present and future of humankind and it doesn't change that. They didn't pass on Mahomes because they wanted Josh Allen the next year. If Allen repeats his 2016 performance in 2017, he goes #1 and they don't have a prayer. We could have ended up with Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen instead. Then where would we be? You're grading the quality of their decision based on the results of the butterfly effect and that's a terrible way to grade the quality of decision making, as it effectively removes any responsibility from those making them.

Fixed.

Yes. and don't forget what video games have been doing to the children for the last 50 years.

Nope. Nice job on putting in extra effort to be wrong, though.

On the contrary: https://onherturf.nbcsports.com/2021/09/09/2021-nfl-season-record-12-women-coaches/ This is to say nothing of the impact in the executive suite. If you're over the age of 30, you're old enough to see this transformation take place in real time int he private sector as well. When i went to college, we had 8 women as members of our class. The landscape of today looks FAR different.

It already does: https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/nfl-changes-rooney-rule

Because maybe you don't know who the best candidates are if you have a bias to only considering white people. The Rooney Rule increases opportunity. That opportunity extends not only to the coaches being interviewed, but also to people who aspire to be in that position someday. The story of guys like Jerod mayo and Byron Leftwich being handed the reigns to premier roles and young ages speaks to that. When people can see that opportunities exist, it can make them be inspired to go after the same thing. In happens in every indsutry, not just football with people from all sorts of backgrounds.

Maybe that's why Ben had a beef with Todd Haley?

See, that's a gross oversimplification and as a result it takes what would seem to be a common-sense affirmative and turns it into a wrong answer. To understand why, you can't just start at the NFL, you have to go back much further than that. The people who make it to the NFL in player or coaching capacities are a sample of people that made it to previous stages on their journeys. To understand how someone makes it to the next step in their journey you need to understand how they made it to their previous one and what their motivations are. The deeper answer to that question is a much larger conversation on race in America that includes education, culture, economics and more. The NFL is a meritocracy like skiing is a meritocracy. No one will tell the best skier in the country that they can't compete because they're black, but based strictly on opportunity, they're not currently in a position to become a representative part of the population.

Considering that he was the 3rd Latino head coach in history, it certainly didn't hurt him. Robert Saleh is also the 3rd Arab head coach and 1rst Muslim.

Every interview is a chance to get a job, and even if you don't get a particular job it helps you next time.

Who said anything about african amercians? What's the population of white people and people of color?

Robert Saleh & Ron Rivera? You missed a huge detail about the Rooney rule that makes the percentage of people it affects at about 4x your claim.

Again, no. Like, not at all. What you're saying is the opposite of true and the reason that things like The Rooney Rule exist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Apke

Again, this is just a complete lack of the basic fundamentals of race dynamics. I would help illuminate the nuance, but based on your responses, I'm guessing that's not really what you're looking for. You seem to have quite a bit of resentment about minority coaches getting the bare minimum consideration, and you have some very, VERY outdated beliefs on race.

No. That's not how racism works.