BullBuchanan

Allen coughed up the ball in the endzone because that's where his defense left it after giving up a 4th and 18 to win the game - again. The defense had an opportunity to win the game and they didn't. Instead they deferred to Allen.

If your QB throws for 330 at 69% completion and run for for 6/84 and he's "the reason you lost" you should be grateful to have such an elite team to make him the deciding factor. Unfortunately that isn't true and it's not what happened. You can't pin the loss on Allen just because he was the last guy who had an opportunity to make a play to win, because he's also the guy who gave his team that opportunity in the first place. Anyone else could have made a half dozen plays over the preceding quarter of football that would have ended the game, but they didn't. Instead, it was Allen's responsibility to drive the length of the field with 41 seconds left to give us a shot and he did. Then the defense folded again and it was Allen's responsibility to drive the field again in OT for a touchdown. Where does it end? How about some accountability from any other member of the Buffalo Bills not named Josh Allen?

Not opposed to a coaching change but what exactly did Sean Payton do except waste one of the most talented rosters in NFL history featuring a top 5 all-time QB? If the answer is "win one Super Bowl and never appear in another", then Brian Billick did that too, so maybe we should add him to the poll

We gave up 13 seconds and the Hail Murray with a healthy roster. We've been giving up 3rd and long and 4th and long as long and McD and Frazier have been here. Injuries are completely unrelated to what's happening here. it's situational decision making that's the problem - not talent.

The same answers he did when they weren't. This isn't a week 10 2022 problem. It's been going on for 5 years. I was praying that Frazier would get a HC job last year and then he kiboshed that with the 13 seconds fiasco. It's basically the same thing he did today and keeps on doing and every time people act surprised.

Sorry you can't blame it on talent when you continue to rush 4 and drop back into cover 4 or prevent year after year in every situation that requires a stop and you get beat anyway. It's not talent, it's situational scheme.

If the defense makes a stop on 4th and 18 it's game over. I guess that was too much to ask from Frazier. He likes to make games interesting with 13 seconds, Hail Murray and the like.

If the defense makes a stop on 4th and 18 the game is over and there's no fumble on the goalline or pick int he endzone. The D couldn't do that so the rest is a consequence of that failure 🤡

Did you miss the part where he's the only reason they didn't lose in regulation?

I gave you two shots and you're still fixated on the completely wrong thing. Allen did everything he needed to do to win today and then his defense cost him the game and he took them to overtime anyway.

What was ugly about Allen's game today? Until the last play he was 29/42, 69% (giggity), 1 TD- 1 INT 330 yards passing and 6 carries for 84 yards. That should be considered a very good game by anyone and he did all of that with a throwing arm injury.

Looks like the part about asking him to bail out the rest of the team and staff infinite times went over your head.

Schottenheimer created good/elite teams wherever he went. The proof is in the pudding that he clearly wasn't the problem at any one of his destinations.

Josh refusing to take what's given is the player he's been his entire career. He may shift away from it for drives, quarters or games, but eventually it's what he reverts back to. It's a large part of the reason he's as dynamic as a player as he is, but yes it will bite him from time to time. He needs to learn when that killer instinct is needed and when it isn't in order to reach his ceiling. If he does ever find that balance, we'll likely see a lot more boring games where he doesn't light up the scoreboard as he dinks and dunks safe balls, but we should win more overall. That said, Josh's team and the coaching staff let him down today. Outside of Singletary's nice couple of runs, he was the only meaningful asset for us on the field today. Sometimes that's enough to win, but we're seeing more and more that it isn't high probability against competent teams. If Frazier doesn't call soft zone Hail Murray defenses every single time we have to make one long defensive stop to win, this game was over. This is like the 7th goddamn time in recent memory this has happened, and pinning it on Josh is ridiculous. Tom Brady in his prime isn't winning here the way this staff handles defense.

That sounds like a Daboll problem. Guys from the Belichick tree have never been known as being stable personalities.

What are you talking about? This is how Josh has always played. The difference is that in the past his "should be" INTs turn into Jaw dropping TDs. He's been a gun slinger his whole life and he's going through a stint where it isn't working our for him and you're asking him to be Chad Pennington. The reason that he's throwing more INTs because we're throwing the entire outcome of the game on his shoulders every single week. You can't do that. Our defense makes a stop on 4th and 18 and that pick doesn't exist and we're talking about how JA is the best player in the NFL again.

Yea, I miss all the Super Bowls we won while he was here too.

Not just today - his entire career. He's the best WR I've ever seen.

That doesn't really hold up. 4/5ths of this line has proven they can play at a high level in this league in the past. Dawkins and Saffold are playing the worst ball of their careers. Morse may be past his prime as he just isn't stout enough to hold up against bull rushes, but he also has a talent level higher than he's showing. Bates is playing solid ball. He might be playing the best of anyone on the line right now. RT is an obvious need.

For $5m or less a season? Sure. Anything more and Nah. He's a fringe starter. Ideally, he'd be your second best DT.

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I guess you missed Diggs standing in front of that player that I told you to look for. You also missed the point about Allen only being in this no-win situation because of his poor decision not to release the ball earlier. Like I already said, you don't care about being correct, only about trying to win a fight and it shows. Everything you've said has been disproven both by what actually happened as well as video replay, but don't let that stop you from hammering on about what could have been (even if it couldn't). Suffice it to say, you're wrong and the video speaks for itself, but I'll withdraw from the argument so that you can claim the victory you so desperately need.

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