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Why? St Brown is considerably better than both of them.

Why would most agree with taking a safety in the first round being a terrible decision if an elite prospect is there? We know from firsthand experience that Rapp is not a starting caliber Safety, and Mike Edwards has been atrocious throughout his career. You may not care about it much in April, but when Mahomes is burning us deep in January, you'll sure act surprised and blame the player when the GM and fans in the know knew full well they weren't up to the task. We have three primary needs: Safety(x2), DE and WR. In a deep WR draft, it's more likely we can get good talent later than a starting caliber safety.

Minkah Fitzpatrick? Tyrann Mathieu?

Never emotion, sadly. That would make life a lot easier. Just talent and coaching.

They'd be closed that day.

Obvious? My man, we were NOT EVEN CLOSE to being anywhere near a Super Bowl contender last year. Those top 4 teams were playing a different sport than the Bills.

I know you didn't ask me, but I sure didn't. I think I have posts around here saying they had no chance to win a Super Bowl somewhere around the Bengals or Broncos game and I got lambasted for it. Then everyone acted surprised when we lost to KC, but I expected it the whole season. I saw how we won and how we lost and I knew it wouldn't be good enough in January and February and it wasn't. Also, it seems like you don't know how betting odds work. Being a "favorite" by a bookmaker has nothing to do with how likely you are to win. It has to do with compensating against the expected action so that the bookmaker doesn't end up on the losing side of an outcome. All it means is that Vegas is expecting action on the Bills.

Yes, no cap. You might be one of the only people that don't get this. Those are important roles being played on the team that you can't just fill with day 3 picks or veteran minim FA deals. This isn't Madden.

He finished in 7th place in NJ 3/4 years. He finished in 5th or 6th 3/4 years in NJ. It's honestly not too far off of Don Granato's record except he managed two good years out of 8 and lucked into the playoffs with 91 points another time.

He "won" once in Dallas in 4 years and then "won" once in NJ in 4 years. The rest of the time he was on the bottom half of the division.

was was a good coach 20 years ago. Since 06 he's Been mostly terrible. 3 playoff appearances in the last 12 years and 6th place or worse 5 of the last 7 seasons was the best we could do? He's the Jeff Fisher of the NHL.

That's a gross minimization of the scenario at hand. We lost our starting center, replacing him with a player who has minimal experience at the position and creating a gap at left guard that we're assuming will be handled adequately. We lost our top 2 receivers (82% snap count), our starting safeties, our #3 outside cornerback (43% snap count), our #3 and #4 DT (36% snap count), our #2 RB (30% snap count). Our current two safeties are not NFL level starting players. Edwards is a borderline roster talent. We have a massive dropoff at CB #3. I don't really care who they are adding in the draft for the purposes of my argument. They are going to be rookies, and late pick rookies at that. They will take time to acclimate. Your last comment about never being in a rebuild just because we have Allen is maybe the most lolable part of this. If the Brady led Pats had to rebuild on several occassions while he was stacking Lombardis. Allen and his zero super bowl appearances is hardly immune.

I'm talking 2009 when they bid farewell to most of their core that was part of the initial dynasty. Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Harrison all departed in addition to losing Pioli and McDaniels. Despite still having a lot of talent on the team including Brady, Welker and Moss and despite still winning the division, they were a flawed team that wasn't a real super bowl contender. Now, we don't even have the benefit of having a Welker, Moss, Brady or Belichick and we were never champions to begin with, but it's still a comp for how elite teams need to take a step back sometimes even with an elite QB and other elite talent. There were plenty of years with the Ben-led Steelers or Rodgers led packers that they were pretenders due to roster gaps, even though they would put up a good showing in the regular season.

Agreed. Maybe they still will later on. If I were GM, I'd try to see if I could eat all the bad deals this year including Knox's contract and if Milano can come back to form, I'd look at trading him in season for draft capital to next year - even though he's my favorite player. I'd look to see how we could get younger and cheaper so that by 2026 we have a team that's really humming and has a shot at being the best in the league.

You've never seen a team with an elite quarterback lose a lot of players in an offseason and then perform poorly the following year or two while their replacements get acclimated? best case scenario we're looking at a Pats 2009 type scenario where we bounce back after a year off.

Again, I'm realistic. They are going into the draft with 5 massive holes, and I don't see a realistic scenario where they get more than 3 starting caliber players. There's no chance that they aren't starting someone who doesn't belong as a starter on even a terrible team, let alone one that says they hope to win. They'll never admit to it being a rebuild year, but it absolutely is.

Thank you for creating this thread.

I'm not pessimistic - I'm realistic. If we had Roquan Smith, TJ Watt, Minkah Fitzpatrick and AJ Brown, I'd have us penciled in as favorites. Unfortunately we don't have a receiver that's ever hit 1k yards, don't have a pass rushers that's ever hit double digit sacks (besides the empty husk of Von miller), and we easily have the worst safety duo in the league right now. History has been on my side every year for 3 straight. Let's re-check the tally at the end of this season and see how far blind optimism gets you.

We'll be fortunate to be in playoff contention as the roster currently stands, imo. We would need a series of miracles to get into the super bowl conversation that involves season ending injuries to Mahomes and Burrow, drafting OROY and DROYs like Houston did, staying healthy and having all of our top players play great, and then having probably 2 current players on the roster take monumental leaps up to all-pro status (Kincaid, Epenesa?) At the end of all that, would it be enough to top the best of the NFC? Doubt it.

The difference between the bills and chiefs has been small but significant the last few years. While Allen and Diggs were a top pairing in the league. Mahomes and Kelce are a top all-time pairing. Kelce should retire as the unanimous greatest TE of all time and Mahomes has a better than not shot of doing the same at QB. In addition, KC has a far more opportunistic defense. The combination of Jones, Snead, Karlaftis, and a strong linebacking group put them significantly ahead of the Bills there. We'll see how losing Snead impacts them. I expect it to be a significant adjustment for them, but they're such a well coached team, that I'll be surprised if they don't adjust by getting more production out of the next group of players or simply pivot back to more of a high flying offense if they can get the right playmakers. They do seem more vulnerable on paper than they have at any other point in Mahomes tenure though. Unfortunately, I think the Bills will also be fielding their weakest roster since at least 2016. Take Allen away, and I think it's for sure a bottom 5 squad as it stands right now.

A lot of college QBs made more than Brock Purdy this year.

I think it's pretty important that they get as many top 100 picks as possible. We aren't 1 player away, so if a trade down helps us turn some of our later picks into more top 100s and Beane can still get star players, I'm all for it. That said, our last build was too light on top end talent. When I look at KC, SF, PHI, BAL, CIN, and even DET they all have way more more top end talent than we did before our purge. As of right now, I feel like we only have 2 legitimate superstars on the team in Allen and Milano. I'd be shocked if we could make a real SB run without at least 4 more. Maybe Kincaid becomes one, Maybe Douglas becomes one.

I already answered it above. I honestly didn't think it needed explaining that he's yet to top his statistical performance of any stat since 2020. Unrelated to his PFR stats: Did it need explaining that he's never been in a championship game since? Did it need explaining that he's never gotten closer to beating KC in the playoffs? Did it needed reminding that in 2022 he mostly regressed after week 6? Did it need explaining that he's only drifted further from an MVP, OPOY, and All Pro? Are we really considering it a hot take that after his monumental breakout in 2020 that he's plateaued?

Again, because you don't want to talk facts, it comes back to attacks on my character and being some sort of double agent ignoring the fact I've had the same account on here and BBMB before it for over 20 years. I could only possibly be considered a "heel" in a place where groupthink is so out of control that supporting a (very common perspective outside these boards) that our team needs significant improvement, has gotten worse this offseason, and that our QB is not christ risen - is somehow a controversial statement. Do you guys seriously not engage with football news or commentary outside these boards? The fact that Allen has poor judgement is literally a meme. It's not some invention of mine designed to get a rise out of you. It's not enough for me to say he's one of the top QBs in football, he has to be #1, all the time, best there is best there was best the ever will be despite the facts or i'm some troll/hater/pats fan. for what it's worth, I've never even heard of you guys.

Lamar won an MVP and 1st team all pro and a playoff game since then. Mahomes has won an MVP and a 1st team all pro, gone to 5 straight AFC Championships, nabbed a 1st team all pro, 4 Super Bowls and nabbed 3 rings since then. Happy to help.