BullBuchanan

And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up.

I prefer watching tp make a fool of himself. This thread's going to read as bad as the rest of his do 2 years down the line.

I think it's far more likely he goes straight back to dominating the division, and jacksonville crawls back to the basement where they belong.

Realized I said Baltimore, meant Carolina. Peterman had two strong bodies of work. Once against the first string of a playoff team and once against the 3rd string of an 0-16 team. Allen flashed talent week 1 against Carolina's 3rd string, but ultimately didn't have the kind of day you'd like your starting QB to have. He then played very well against the 0-16 backups. I didn't bring up strength of competition, but since happy did, that's the result

Help me help you.

Allen played against salesmen from a different city and performed worse. It's a bad argument. Since you brought this up, It also shouldn't be discounted that Allen's wonderful performance came against an 0-16 team's second string. You could make a very reasonable argument that Carolina's 3rd string has stronger talent.

I think he's better than Steve Tasker and that's about it. He does a decent job of explaining coverages to common people and outside of that I hear about 5 minutes of pre game from him a week. Sounds like a standard local former athlete to me.

You can only give him credit/ding him for the opportunities he's had, and then you want to constantly change the parameters of what constitutes a valid opportunity. He threw back to back touchdown bombs week 1. Oh, 1 didn't count because of a penalty. The other doesn't count because reasons. The O'Leary TD doesnt count because he was open. The KB snow bowl TD bomb doesn't count because red grapes are better than green grapes. 85% completion because defenses don't try against NP, easy passes, and it's preseason, but JA's 56% is coming against a stacked Cleveland second unit that game planned against him for months and hacked into the playbook server to try to shut him down, and failed miserably . BUTWHATABOUTTHEDEEPOUT!?!?!?

This has pretty much been my experience, but I think you've mixed up your directions. I'd bet money that these guys aren't in my camp on that subject either. KB touchdown in the snow bowl. Stop ranting on 2 quarters of football like it defines a career. It makes you look even more foolish.

Can't you at least give us the credit of having the foresight to add this account 18 months ago just to take advantage of this very opportunity?

Yeah, you caught us...I mean me. Or is it him? I forget. Great sluething, Ace. You'd be a lock for BPD. If at first your weak illogical rants don't succeed, attack the credibility of the opponent. Amazing that no one can stop the same play called 30 times in a row more than 15% of the time. Maybe they're on to something?

I think he's really going to struggle behind this line. I also expect to be playing from behind quite a bit as this front 7 looks very weak.

Drew Brees and Tom Brady say, "sup?"

The kid has amazing arm talent and he's really fun to watch. It's too bad it's never translated into wins at any point in his career. He should be great in fantasy though, just like Jay Cutler.

When you can't even spell my name correctly, when you can see it right there, it should give folks a lot of pause about your ability to break down any more complicated subject.

I understand that it might seem inconceivable that they could do two things at the same time, but I think they're up to the challenge. They don't throw the playbook out depending on the QB, the just change the frequency of plays.

A. I don't like him B. Peyton proved without a doubt he was the sole reason for the Colt's success and put together probably the best season any QB ever had at age 38. AFTER having his neck broken. C. Peyton's intelligence allowed him to win even when his arm fell apart to a JV level.

Here's a great article on the subject from 15 years ago from Paul Hackett's perspective. tl;dr you design your offense around what you have: https://www.newsday.com/sports/powerful-arm-not-required-touch-poise-leadership-more-important-for-qb-1.436308

Complete passes.

You'd almost think Jim Kelly actually won something if you were born in Buffalo. I'm not sure Kelly is in the top 30, and Brady, as much as it pains me, is the best there's ever been. I'm still taking Peyton on any team though.

What happens if we win when he starts against Baltimore? Another fluke? What about the week after, or the week after that?

Yawn. You've proven over and over again your incapable or unwilling to acknowledge the most basic principles of facts if they don't fit your agenda. An out route is one of dozens of routes available. Obviously the coaches are comfortable with his ability to handle it, otherwise he wouldn't be on the team. If they decide there are better routes for him, they'll run those instead. Nobody ever lambasted Peyton Manning because he didn't execute the best naked bootleg. I don't expect any of you to acknowledge you were wrong when Allen's holding a clipboard week 1. I just expect more logical fallacies, excuses, and personal attacks until everyone forgets this was even a discussion.

I got to that assumption because NP and AJ have been splitting #1 reps all off season with Allen getting minimal. Given game #3 is usually a dress rehearsal. game 2 is your last shot to get a look. Given Nate played well against the 1s last week, you really had 2 choices about how to play him this week. You could either start him again/split with McCarron to give a fair look, or let JA get his reps and see if Nate could perform without starting talent around him. The only other possible explanation for Nate getting 3rd team reps would be that McD already made up his mind he's out of the competition, which i would consider HIGHLY unlikely given all play to this point. There's not a lot you can learn from 3rd team reps besides does the guy make others better or does poor talent drag him down .

The !@#$ing deep-out again. I swear to god, it's been mentioned more in this thread than in the entirety of human history. I had no idea a 10 yard sideline pass was the holy grail of sports. Why even bother with a playbook, just run deep outs all game and may the best QB win.

Read slower. You'll get it.