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I feel like Bryan Scott would be a better pick than clay.

Unfortunately, sports isn't always a meritocracy. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them keep a guy like Perry or Yeldon over him even if he runs wild the final two games. Not one bit.

This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Thanks.

This is literally the point of the thread... Orton was never a scrub, he was just asked to be better than he was while he was here. He played 9 seasons in the league. Manuel was definitely not a scrub entering his second season, either.

No one else on this roster is capable of the two runs he's had at this point in their careers. For that reason alone, they should try to find a way to keep him and mix him in when they can hide his lack of football experience.

In the context of today? You have a high draft pick sophomore that won some games and made some splashy plays, but had enough negatives to not be considered a sure thing and a journeyman backup who's played very well on occasions. I mean, how much closer can you get? Are you sure it's not just because the other guys didn't work out?

Not really. No one really knows yet whether Allen is going to stick in this league or flame out in 3 years. He's in a long line of players who had ups and downs their first year and needs to take big strides in his sophomore season. Nationally, we're considered to have a bottom 5 QB situation. If you spend too much time around here you though, you'd think we already had Mahomes wearing #17. Preseason has been encouraging so far, but last was pretty balanced good and bad, not unlike Manuel's rookie year.

If Duke makes one more big catch I could see it going: Brown Beasley Zay Foster Roberts Williams I just don't see what McCloud and McKenzie offer that you can't find anywhere.

The difference is Barkley was talked about as a potential #1 overall pick prior to his final season. They were worlds apart in development and expectations coming out of college. Jackson was pretty heavily talked about as a day 2 pick. The fact that he went undrafted was kind of a shock, even if it doesn't look like it now.

I might draft Poyer. He's done really well for me over the last couple years. Solid 4-4.5 points a week. I could see taking a flyer on Oliver too if he's classed as a DT.

There's few players in the league with the talent he has, so I definitely think the Bills should stick him on the PS. However, I don't expect it to do much good, as the main job of the PS is to be a scout team - not personal development.

It's an uphill climb for sure. I've always been a little curious why NFL teams don't employ personal trainers to turn guys with freak skills into legitimate players. Not sure if it's a CBA thing or they just don't view it as a worthy thing to do, but I'd like to believe if this guy had a personal coach that just taught him football day and night that he could be electric.

I'd like to believe that Josh McCown and Ryan Fitzpatrick are best friends. They probably could start a tour guide company after they hang up their cleats.

It's all good. I've been a pretty heavy skeptic of this squad, so I guess it's easy to take what I said the wrong way. I really hope they can find a way to keep Wade on this team while he learns the position. I don't think we have another back that can run like him right now.

First of all, you misread my post - what i said was "Outside of Zay Jones I don't think there's a cut they would make that would qualify as surprising". There are a ton of players that don't fit into a bucket of guys they would cut - in other terms, they're virtual locks to make the team. Guys like Allen, Morse, Edmunds, Star, White, Oliver, Hughes, Milano, Borwn, Beasley, Kroft, Knox, Ford, Alexander, Murphy. etc. Among the guys that aren't complete locks to make the team, I think any of them could be cut and it wouldn't be a shock. That is unless you'd consider McCoy getting cut a shock, but I wouldn't. We don't have any cap-casualty type players left, or young kids that are going to force a long time vet off the team in my opinion. And yes, outside of handful of proven players we have or guys with 1-2 years of experience most of them are replacement level guys including our entire 2nd string and lower defense, every WR below #2, our entire offensive line besides Dawkins and Morse (who is at serious risk of never playing again), our TE group (except the rookies) and our entire RB committee. It doesn't mean by default that they won't play well or be good down the road.

Am I less of a fan because I'm not chanting Super Bowl in August like the majority of this board? If that's what I need to do, let me know.

Are you implying that Matt Stafford is not a very good QB?

I really feel bad for Jackson. He has insane physical gifts, but he isn't anywhere near NFL ready. There really should be a path for kids to go back to school that have expectations of being drafted that don't, because the NFL doesn't have a system in place for these guys. From what I understand, NFL Practice squads aren't really designed to help guys develop.

The performance thus far is encouraging, but it's something we've seen many times before. The monkey on the back of this team throughout their history is how they handle adversity. From our 4 SB's, to the Music City Miracle, to the Willie Parker coming out show, the Monday Night Meltdown, 5-2 to 6-10, etc. The pre-season by design caters to the opposite of that. I want to know if McDermott has developed better football instincts for adjusting gameplans at half time, when to challenge, punt vs go, etc. Can Allen be the first guy in 25+ years that we can expect to win us the game with a minute left at his own 20? Do we have the heart on this defensive group to steal games away in the final moments? Will anyone on this team stand up and become one of the most feared at their position? I don't think you can answer any of those things in pre-season and I think it's the biggest thing that separates teams that regularly run deep into the season and those that finish 6-10 to 9-7. Unrelated: Christian Wade has to make this team right?

At this point I really don't think there's any reason to believe it's better than Manuel/Orton. I knowa lot of people are assuming that Allen will be here for 15 years, v and I hope he is, but he really have done a thing to earn that yet. If you redrafted today, he'd probably be the 4th QB taken.

Not the reason any of that happened, but 100% of the reason he isn't signed. If you followed the stock market, you'd see that. This country lost A trillion dollars because of a tweet this week.

Outside of Zay Jones I don't think there's a cut they would make that would qualify as surprising. No real tenured vets. No high draft picks on the bubble outside of Shaq. This team is mostly a bunch of replacement level players at this point. They could cut any of them or none of them and it wouldn't shock me either way

bye.

No, he'd still be a starting qb if this country wasn't overrun with closeted and open racists who get sad pants when someone said this country has problems. Of and something about troops or whatever.

Wins games, throw TDs, doesn't throw ints, and lead his team to back to back NFC championship games and a superbowl appearance. Shall I go on? Jackson can't even throw a football and Tenn has been a dumpster fire ever since he got there. The guy who benched him for gabbert was pretty immediately laughed out of the league too. I wouldn't use that as your shining example.