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Hardly. Tyrod Taylor was a better QB than Cassel and when Taylor went to the playoffs, he won just won more game than he did in either of the previous two seasons. So, with that in mind, he had a typicaly Tyrod Taylor season. McD didn't elevate him at all. Interestingly, the game that got us in the playoffs that year - a win against the lowly Miami Dolphins, was another near-colossal collapse by a McDermott team where after holding them scoreless for 42 minutes, we needed a last minute interception to stop the march of David Fales and Kenny Stills from continuing our playoff drought. Lazy counter response and non-existent argument.

I'm not trying to prove he's a bad coach though. I don't think Dick Jauron was a "bad" coach. I think they're both extremely mid, with McDermott being a little better.

Your career win percentage stats are completely irrelevant, because the overwhelming majority of McD's stats are with Josh Allen at the Helm. He has one full season and another 5 games that he played without Josh Allen. He was 10-11 over that span with one playoff appearance that was a loss. Obviously it's not a horrible percentage, but it's highly volatile with numbers that small. A couple games in either direction have massive percentage point swings. What makes McDermott like Jauron is his general philosophy that high level execution is the most important factor in winning football games, while at the same time being unable to get his team to execute at a high level with consistency. The difference is that talent, namely Allen, has won this team a ton of football games even when they aren't executing. Jauron didn't have that luxury. I think when you look at our various defensive collapses over McDermott's tenure, where Allen is not able to bail him out, or you look at our penalties against, you can see evidence of our team not doing the one thing that's supposed to be McDermott's forte. Couple that with his poor time management and poor challenge judgement (admittedly less important) and I just don't see a coach who executes at a high level when that's supossed to be his thing. Of course, many coaches like Belichick, Shanahan, Reid, have all had teams with very high levels of execution over the years, especially Belichick, but each of those coaches also bring a tremendous knowledge of the game paired with a strategic vision and tactical plan that put their team in the best position to win possible.

If Super Bowl victories are your only metric for caliber of coaching, that's your problem.

What exactly do you think you proved with all this? You realize that when you take away Josh Allen, these stats don't line up like this, right?

Bill Belichick went 11-5 with matt Cassel, He dragged Mac Jones tot he playoffs kicking and screaming. Kyle Shanahan has people thinking Jimmy Garoppolo might be the next elite QB in the NFL for a minute and now he's doing the same with Brock Purdy. We all know how Jimmy turned out. Great coaches get the best out of their players, but you can't get gold from *****. Bad counter argument.

I don't really expect him to improve at all. How many coaches have significant improvement after 7 years on the job with no prior signs of growth? I haven't seen anything the last couple of years that tells me he's meaningfully improved year over year. Unless you have a coach that's at the forefront of innovation, I think it's hard to just consistently get better.

Take away Josh Allen and McDermott is just Dick Jauron: The Next Generation.

That whole family sucks, elite play notwithstanding.

Makes me glad to roam the high seas

You've clearly never played Madden.

21st at 85.553. Just below Matt Bryant and above Jason Myers. Pretty good company.

Epenesa has 13 sacks over 2 years playing a limi9ted role as a #4 and sometimes #5 DE. He currently has the 25th highest FG % in NFL history. You could do a lot worse.

$65M AAV minimum.

None. We're broke and none of the players above represent value.

It's sad, but the man was 75. If it wasn't this, it would have been something else. There are no good endings.

Upside based on what? Draft position? As a pro, he's never flashed a trait that makes him special. He is very good against the run, but that's not really the defining trait you're looking to get out of your #1 DE in today's game. As a pass rusher or playmaker, I don't see the potential for him to be a difference maker out there.

AJ Epenesa is my pick. I was dead certain he'd get a 4 year deal somewhere averaging 12-13M a year based on the flashes he showed with limited opportunities. Still just 25 coming off back to back 6.5 sack seasons, he'll have a much bigger role this year if the Bills don't make a splash acquisition. He was a far better player than Von Miller last season, and hopefully the Bills cut ties with him or keep him limited to a reserve role unless he's truly back. Epenesa has his limitations, but he's got a very high motor and nose for the ball that guys like Milano and Bernard have. He'll never be an elite pass rusher, but he could be one of those key pieces to a championship defense. I think he offers something far more special than what I've seen out of Rousseau so far.

Pretty athletic kid. Good for him. Hopefully he gets a shot somewhere.

No, not the same. The 4 year younger version of him.

See if you can get a copy of Bill's bill from his Bills Bills jersey. how much do they get from Tre?

I think being better "built" would imply the philosophy is different. It's the same philosophy. Cam and Josh are the same archetype, Josh is just a lot better. They were enamored with big slow WR prospects in the draft, first Benjamin and then Funchess. Their plans fell apart at WR because Benjamin got hurt and Funchess sucked. They too brought in a former star DE (Allen) at the end of the line to try to put them over the hump. They invested heavily in big men with 10/12 top 3 picks invested in OL or Defensive front 7 between 2012 and 2015.

That's a silly argument, because Diggs was clearly a first round talent when the trade was made. Davis is at worst a 2nd round talent at this point in his career. When the draft happens, guys are unknowns. After they've played in the league 4+ years, where they were drafted doesn't matter at all. You can either play or you can't. We've got a ton of former 2nd round bums on this team now including Hamler, Claypool and Isabella. They aren't better than Gabe Davis just because they were drafted 2 rounds earlier.

We watched a different player. Dude was a monster last season. I thought he was far better than his 10.5 sacks indicated. He's not a platinum tier pure pass rusher, but he's already a very high level complete football player that is always making plays. If he were on the Bills he'd have a legitimate argument to be in our top 2 players in the front 7. From 2023:

It's very difficult to win, if not impossible, without a very good d-line.