BullBuchanan

I don't think Allen does, not in any game of significance anyway. We've watched him choke countless times on the big stage already in his young career.

Allen needed to pull off 4th quarter drives because he put us in that position to begin with. Those drives also came against the bottom feeders of the league that we should have never been behind at any point. I wouldn't be so quick to laude him with accolades

A franchis QB wins that easy game where we were up 16-0 in the third. What we saw today was a Derrick Carr/Andy Dalton/Ryan Tannehill cailber QB choke when it got too hot.

The fact that this is even a question people are willing to entertain shows the insanity of the Bills fanbase and why we're a joke of an organization. 2 time NCAA Champ, who would have been OROTY if he hadn't gotten hurt, 2x Pro Bowler ,and has won back to back division championships. Meanwhile Allen came in 3rd place in his division in the Mountain West, has never thrown a 300 yard game, and leads the league in fumbles.

the kid had like 20 fumbles this year. For all of his physical gifts, he's at his best when he plays like a 5'10' West Coast style, quick-release QB. He's the problem, not part of the solution. Outside of maybe Tannehill, he's easily the weakest QB in the entire playoffs. Hard to win with that.

LOL. The Bills did nothing to deserve to win after the first half.

Allen was sitting in a recliner most of the game. The OL was outstanding. No line blocks perfect on every play and no defense allows 0 points. This is just scapegoating Allen losing the game. Watson was sacked 7 times and still won. How did they not lose with OL play like that?

Every player on the field and every fan watching, besides the OP, knew what he was doing. It's pedantic to try to find something that wasn't on that play.If you cant win on your own merit, you don't deserve to win. We couldn't and we didn't.

I like Mike Schopp enough. He's smart, articulate, and has interesting takes. He gets a bit too short with people and has a "my way or the highway" attitude, but I don't write him off for it. I don't go out of my way for him, but he's a way better radio personality than Bulldog, and probably the best that Buffalo has to offer. It's just been cool to hate on him for so long that many people have forgotten why they claim to not like him.

It makes plenty of sense if you believe that Phillip rivers isn't a great QB. Many of the best LTs and DTs to play the game don't have rings, and I don't need to commit 20% of my cap to those guys. I'd rather have the best Linebacker, QB or even Safety.

Complete nonsense. Josh has a LOT of work to do to get to that level. He's still very much a raw project. Every single person here wants him to succeed, it's just that we may be divided on how close he is to that goal and/or how likely it is that he'll reach it. His decision making, processing speed, and accuracy still isn't good enough, especially when he needs to make a play. He's doing a better job than he did last year, but he needs to be twice as good by the end of next season, or I'll be wanting serious competition. You can't win a lot of games in this league against top teams if you can't get rid of the ball quickly and hit vertical routes down the field. Good Defenses can make this team one dimensional right now to force Josh to attempt plays he's had a hell of a time converting.

Coke isn't really a performance enhancing drug, especially in the context of a couple hour long football game.

just because star is overpaid, doesn't mean we should overpay a one-year wonder a season removed from being waived as a former 2nd rd pick. Phillips has been great, and I'm more than happy to keep him around at $5-7M any more than that and we can replace him with someone younger. As for Dawkins, he's exactly what I'm looking for in an OL. Solid but unspectacular. Any QB worth having should be able to get their job done behind guys like Dawkins.

You need decent to good players in those spots, but you hardly need elite. The elite players at both positions command huge premiums that have significant diminishing returns. Give me the 15th-20 best LT all day over the #1 at a quarter or less of the cost. If Jordan Phillips wants $10M let some other team make that mistake.

DT might be the most overrated position in football after Left Tackle. We've had Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Ted Washington, and Pat Williams among a host of other very good interior DL and it got us exactly nowhere. To commit that kind of cap space to a position that won't win you a Super Bowl is just stupid when you can get guys like Jordan Phillips for a $4.5M cap hit.

We already passed on that guy twice in April.

I picked 30%. He'll live and die with McD and those are about the odds I think he'll still be here by then. 2 years in, I think Allen is way behind where he should be if we're going to think of him as a long term option. With the ball in his hands and under 2 minutes to go, I expect to lose unless it's to a team we never should have been behind in the first place (like last week). He has the tools, but he doesn't seem like he has the ability to put them all together to dominate opponents the way even inferior QBs do on occasion. He has great plays and good games but he's yet to have the type of game that makes a person think he can be a top tier talent. It's pretty clear he's not a bust, but I just hope we don't get saddled with a long term contract and get Carr/Dalton/Tannehill or even Rivers-esque results out of it. If he can't carry this squad, we shouldn't stop looking until we find someone that can.

I apply the same question to all of my relations.

Part of me agrees with that. i don't think the NFL celebrates as much of it's heritage as it could. It has access to a pretty vast film archive of games and players a lot of people have very limited familiarity with or maybe never even heard of. I Mean Otto Graham took his team to the championship every year that he played and won 7 of them. Is he the best ever? Obviously with how much the game and even the world has changed, it's hard to say, but I think it's an interesting question of if his abilities would have translated to major success today if they were ramped up by modern playcalling, nutrition, workouts, etc. It's pretty clear guys like Jim Brown would still be a beast.

I'd add Brees. I think he's top 5 all time and that should get it done as a QB.

I love Milano. It would be great if the kid could morph into a bonafide stud, but that might be asking too much. As it is, he makes some really great plays and his motor reminds me of KW. Also a big fan of Poyer. Tre is undoubtedly our best player on D, but for some reason is just don't get too worked up over corners. It's much easier for me to gush over a linebacker.

It's still true. I hate Bama, but they damn near pulled it out with a backup QB. They'll be the pre-season #1.

Bold move with that hindsight.

Holt and Huchinson are my top two with Atwater, Polamalu, and Lynch behind

Bottom of 16-22.