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I'd be shocked if the asking price was any lower than 2 1sts. From an in-conference rival who likely will be drafting at the back end of the round, I'd imagine the comp would be quite a bit higher.

They want Rodgers. They wouldn't even be considering that if they weren't in win-now mode. They have a lot of aging veterans, and just traded for Metcalf. Admittedly it's a weird state they're in with the QB. If they can't get Rodger, I'd expect them to make a run at Cousins, or perhaps they'll talk to Tannehill.

How does that logic work?

Pickens was a cancer to the team. Expect them to make a move for a #2. They're in win-now mode. Cooper, Allen, Davis and others are available.

1. Shakir 2. Kincaid 3. Coleman 4. Palmer 5. Cook 6. Johnson 7. Knox 8. Samuel 9. Moore

He'd immediately be no worse than the 2nd best WR on the team. However due to investment, he'd probably slot back in as the 4th. Unfortunately the Samuel cap situation makes it hard to dump him, but he'd be a massive upgrade there. I'd expect Davis to get a shot as a #2 on a needy team.

an inch shorter and 5 lbs heavier will make a guy look bigger. There no way in hell he's 220 at 6'4".

The alternative is retirement. Again,for a 5th round pick, easy gamble. They don't need him to be the guy. If he is and they got him for a 5th? Great! If Sanders sits and does nothing for 4 years in Cleveland, he'll probably have to sign a 1 year $2M deal with some dumpster fire of a team to try to prove himself in his age 27 season. He has absolutely zero leverage left in his career until he proves he's better than the 3rd string QB he is right now.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're making the argument that his skill wasn't worth the draft pick a team would have to use on him concerning his character. if so, I think that's the consensus among NFL folks. However, I think it also came out that as a player he's not nearly as strong a prospect as others in the draft, so there are also real football concerns. Regardless, It's hard to understand how a 5th round pick could possibly be a meaningful distraction to your football team. He's not going to be getting interviews when he's inactive on game days, and veteran leaders int he lockeroom won't be pushing for him to get starting reps unless he comes out and tears it up. In which case, win for the Browns.

Why do they care how he feels about it? They have a 5th round pick invested in him. They could cut him out of camp and it wouldn't be a big deal. They had a higher grade on Gabriel, so you'd have to assume he's higher on the depth chart right now anyway. He's a rookie - any "noise" he makes would be completely shut down and/or ignored by the vets. This isn't a situation where you brought in competition for a middling vet. The most ikley outcome is Watson to IR, Flacco Starts the year, Gabriel is first man in, and Sanders only sees the field if Gabriel struggles. People are acting like they drafted Sanders in the 2nd or even 3rd. There's absolutely no downside to taking him where they did. His ego is now completely shattered. These trades don't happen much anymore because teams draft QBs that should go in the 4th round in the 1st round these days. The Market is so skewed to QBs that teams will do anything to try to get one, even when they're guys like Kenny Pickett. From the 2020 draft there are 0 QBs on active rosters drafted int he 4th round or later. That's crazy. It's possible that there may be no QBs from the 2021 draft after the 1st round still active int he NFL next year, as rookie contracts expire this year. What his brother said about their Dad representing them probably says a lot.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Follow the old packers model of having a premier backup waiting in the wings on a rookie deal. I think a place like Buffalo owuld have been perfect for Sanders. All the hype could die down, he'd get to learn under an elite offense and just get his reps in. If Allen were to ever be injured for an extended period of time, I'd feel much better about a young player with potential salvaging our season, than a guy like Mitch Trubisky or Mike White. Those guys are ideal for a game or less. At a 5th round pick, you'd be risking very little, and if he showed up in pre-season, you could turn that into a high pick down the road, ala Rob Johnson, Matt Shaub, Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck, etc.

I'd need two of Hairston, Sanders, and Jackson to play like DROY candidates and Bosa to have a career year to get me there. I like just about every change we've made, but we still don't have enough talent to overcome the teams above us, and some of those behind may catch up. I'll be on board in 2026 if we have another draft like this and we bring in key FAs to elevate the team.

What would make you think he's the starter? He has one year of starting experience in 4 seasons, and it was 3 seasons ago. He's a fringe NFL player. If there's a longshot to make the safety squad it has to be him. Hamlin has his limitations, but he's been a FAR more productive play in his career. Hamlin is at worst a #3 safety on most NFL teams. He's without a doubt an NFL talent.

Even if he does play, how excited does that get you? What problem does he fix about our group as a whole? What's a best case scenario?

Our 6th receiver competition is what was keeping you up at night about the WR room?