Drunken Pygmy Goat

Damn Josh doesn't even know what day it is? We're ******!

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There were many people that didn't eat the regurgitation, and didn't consider Goff a bust after year 1. You know why? Because it was year 1. People are too quick to jump all over something and break out the pitchforks, especially once it becomes the popular thing to do. In LA with Goff, and in Buffalo with McBeane (or anyone at any time ever in Buffalo)...Goff may not have been under the best tutelage under Fisher, but I was confident that he'd be a good QB. McVay and his staff (oh, and all those weapons they've added over the last 2 years...) certainly are getting the most out of him. Why don't we just let things play out first, instead of automatically assume Allen needs an offensive HC? Get the weapons, then judge. Trust the damn ugly process "Attack winning. Don't fear failure"

It's actually not kind of crazy. That's why you're reading a lot of "I'm torn" comments. Losing him would hurt, especially this season, but he's not a long term piece, money saved next year, and pick(s) added. There's some allure there.

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That's a really good point. I know teams often "look" different from year to year, as far as looking at the schedule before the season goes, but the Bills are a playoff team that took a significant step back WRT the roster. They have a new, raw rookie QB, 3 new full time offensive linemen, and are weaker at WR (Matthews when healthy and Thompson were servicable enough). Yeah, it sucks seeing your team struggle in certain ways, especially so bad on offense, but wasn't this kind of expected to some extent?

I don't think the Bills would have let Marlowe go, after playing well enough, if the staff wasn't confident that Hyde and/or Bush would be able to play this week.

Stay safe! My brother in law came in from Destin last night. Mandatory evac there. I'm in DeLand (working in Winter Garden area today; eerie feel outside). Irma and Matthew were close calls but could have been much worse. 2004 OTOH was something else.

By unnecessary, I meant that in this case specifically, it didn't really cost the team. If the OP has a problem with it, then it's obviously a warranted discussion to them. I just don't understand why you would criticise something that's really not a big deal, in this case and in general. Hughes dropping in this scheme isn't an exact replica of Mario in Rex's scheme. Maybe my comment was a bit snarky/poorly worded...sorry OP.

Not sure what's up with Miller; I think he was a healthy scratch on Sunday. Either way, this has the making of another defensive struggle, especially if Watson doesn't play/start. I think the Bills have a better chance to win than most people think, but our offense and passing game is just so bad that I don't think we can keep up. Gonna have to win the turnover battle, maybe a defensive TD puts the Bills over. 20-13 Texans

JMO, but it's also about showing another wrinkle, doing something that's not expected. Murphy dropped against the Vikings and probably should have had a pick. Every play isn't going to work every time. I get the point, though. You're having a player do something that he isn't great at, while taking him away from doing what he's best at. That's why you don't do it often. Was the 3rd down converted?

Titans-Jags was off the board all or most of the week. Mariotta was hurt all week and ended up not starting. There's nothing up; the line was 8.5, then the Texans let it be know Watson is day to day. Everyone saw the beating he took on several plays against the Cowboys.

But Hughes dropping isn't an issue. If it happens 5-10 times per year, and it isn't hurting the team, why does it matter? Discussion is one thing, criticising unnecessarily is another.

"Release the hounds!"

This is probably the case. Certainly part of the Eagles approach, if anything.

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The Eagles worse 2nd rd pick (Ravens) will likely be a late 2nd. Bills 3rd will likely be an early 3rd. You're suggesting the Bills trade McCoy to just move up 10-15 spots in the middle of the draft???

Actually Thurman is a pretty good hire for Singletary and the type of defense he'll want. They also hired Bills former QB coach David Lee (Gailey era).

I agree. Only trade him if he wants it, and if there's decent compensation. He says he likes it in Buffalo, but Philly is probably #1 in his heart, so that could chnage his mind.

I feel dumb. Not for reading this thread, but for wasting so much time on a long post in it.

Well to be fair to Mr. Bojorquez, he should have more data to directly compare to others at the position. Essentially, what you did was nitpick a couple stats to help support your idea. You criticized a punt from the opponent's 47 downed at the 19 in your OP...was that actually one of his punts this year, or was it just a random example of the point you were making? There's a lot data and variables that can be dissected in this very instance, before truly gaining a real "answer" to your argument, and tbh I don't feel like taking the time to go through all 31 of his punts to see where the LOS was and where each of those punts were downed. But I did run numbers on PFR (pic below) and noticed that most of his punts have come from a poor position on the field, at least based on averages. For all Bills punts this year, the average LOS was around the opponent's 34 yard line. To qualify as being inside the 20, 47 yards is the target punt average, roughly 2 yards more than Bojorquez's yards per punt avg of 45.2. For all punters, the difference between the most YPP and least YPP is exactly 10 yards (50.7-40.7; the bottom 2 in the league are both rookies, BTW). The Bills could do a lot worse here. 13 teams are doing worse here, and 23 are doing worse in inside 20 %. But even still, numbers don't lie, but they don't always tell the whole truth either... To truly judge a punter, in a way that IMO is best, you would have to go through and document all punts from all punters that occur beyond their own 40 yard line (mid-field area), and document where exactly inside the 20 the ball is downed for each of those punts. There was a decent write up about 10 years ago that breaks it down: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/indexc344.html?p=709. Unless, of course, you have a kicker with an absolute booming leg that can get inside the 20 at a high percentage while kicking from "deep" in your own territory. Those guys don't come around very often (Roby?). I guess what I'm saying is, Bojorquez may not be great, but he's at least good in one measure so far. Many punters are much worse. It seems you may have put more emphasis on his 2 blunders (which didn't cost the Bills wins BTW), and those plays convinced you to look deeper for stats that would point to him as being expendable and easily replaced. But without context, and without comparable numbers, those numbers could be flawed. He's a rookie. Rookies make mistakes. The botched punt was under wet conditions. I'm not writing them off, but I'm also not willing to write him off just yet, especially when there are numbers out there that are somewhat more indicative of his play.

First of all, where are you getting your info? Second, how does the number of punts in opponent's territory compare to other punters?

Well in this particular case, maybe not a major factor (just tired of fans not giving the rookies a chance to get better). But if it's so easy to find someone better from the UFA scrap heap, why haven't the several teams with statistically worse punters (currently) made the move already?