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Orlovsky is typically higher on the Bills than most. We love it and it's a smart move because Josh will find a way to make his weapons work, which will prove Orlovsky right more often than not. I still think we could benefit from a few more weapons on Offense, but it might come in the form of another stud LG in the offseason or another boundary receiver. I'm happy with this year, but even more excited when we carry the same players into next year and add a bit more.

Roll the $10M of cap space over to next year so we have $30M in space and a ton of draft picks. ::ducks and braces for impact::

This is fantastic news for us on many levels. If his hold-out lasts through camp, he likely won't be in rhythm when the Bills play Fins Week 2. It also increases the chances the Dolphins overpay him even more... which is great for a mediocre player.

At night means both teams deal with the same elements (if any). Not one side baking in the heat while the other sits in the shade. Literally best case scenario. This also increases the chances we get Dolphins late in Buffalo in the elements.

We would get two 3rd round comp picks for that. GOOD LUCK out there Mr. Gray!

Unpopular opinion: celebrating the injury of a 1st rounder drafted 28 overall shows nothing but penis envy towards the Chiefs. We shouldn't care about him. We also shouldn't care that the Bills traded their pick with the Chiefs. If Worthy was incredible in camp or the first couple weeks of the season, sure, be upset. Until then, this is just sad to witness.

None of the options you presented - WR via trade and restructure.

Very in-depth interview that was just posted. Hope you all enjoy it! 47 minutes, so I think it deserves its own thread:

OR, make it extremely complicated Move McGovern to C Move Dawkins to LG Move ... I don't know, somebody else to LT ... Anyway, you get the point, just move everybody. Git er done TBD!

So, just aggregating the posts above and adding in comp picks, expected 2025 draft picks as of today: 1st round (1) 2nd round (2) 3rd round (1) 4th round (3) 5th round (2) 6th round (2, possibly 3) Wow

Yup. Hope we’re all wrong.

More loser talk. The Bills were 13 seconds away from beating the Chiefs in the playoffs, then two years later they were 2-3 plays away. There is not a huge fundamental gap between them. They're not blowing us out. I don't know why some fans insist on acting like the Chiefs have every answer and the Bills have none. Their Hall of Fame Tight End is 34 years old. We have an elite one (or two) in their mid 20's. They drafted a WR we didn't want. Their other WR is going to be suspended. Who else do they have to throw to? We have plenty of picks to get young weapons of our own. The Chiefs don't "own" the Bills, they've just beat us in close games in the playoffs. We beat them in their own home multiple times. Just chill out and stay positive.

I think we might trade down again. Gut instinct is Beane wants two 2nd round picks to go WR/WR bang, bang, then spend another pick in the late 2nd early 3rd on safety.

This is a loser mentality. Dont make a good trade because you’re scared your rival might pick someone they like? I’ve seen too much of this mentality. Act like we have one of the best QBs in the league and expect to win.

Graham Barton.

Philly doesn’t need a WR, neither does Jax, but I’m worried about Dallas. Trade up in front of Dallas and lock in BTJ?

Shakir’s lack of arm length was the reason he slipped so far in the draft. It makes it really hard for him to pluck the ball away from corners. He’s best as a Z receiver (slot) but can play outside in a pinch. Probably not the guy you want to primarily line up outside.

This was meant to be a Josh Allen analysis, but I learned more about Diggs than I had ever expected in this. Way more than any article published the last several months. This is the reason Diggs was traded. He was paid to be a game wrecker and he showed up all over this film as a JAG. Can't throw to him when he's covered, isn't beating players with effort, isn't even beating single coverage. That's not a $30M/yr player and when Beane got a 2nd round pick to him, I bet he ran to cash in the offer. I'm actually excited to replace him with the collateral we receive in return for cutting him ($30M and a 2nd next year).

Only a Bills fan would wait 20 years for an elite, superstar QB to come to town, then suggest trading him for draft picks.

Is this funny? I know a lot of Mexicans named Jesus and it never cracks me up.

Ah yes, the increasingly popular opinion: "I don't understand this, so it's not real" Bill Belichick was notorious for trading down to accumulate an immense amount of picks because he believed the draft is mostly a gamble. He was one of the worst GMs in modern history. Of course there is luck involved, but GMs like Ozzie Newsom routinely outperform awful GMs like Matt Millen and Bill O'Brien. In the new world of advanced analytics, these gaps will tighten even more, and the expected value of a player will be closer to their real value. Looking at historical analysis of hit rates is a fool's errand. The world has changed.

You can do this with any position. ”You don’t need a superstar LT to win a Super Bowl” ”You don’t need a superstar DE to win a Super Bowl” You generally need a great QB. All other positions don’t dictate your future. But franchise WRs, LTs, CBs, DEs, etc make it easier. They’re the second tier of most important positions.

I debated Michael Thomas being a ++ but he’s on waivers right now and generally an afterthought in Free Agency. The same can be said about JuJu… signed to a cheap deal with KC and a cheap deal with the Pats. Courtland Sutton is your best case… but again, top 32? If you think any of these guys are currently top 32 receivers, go right ahead and add another plus next to their name. I don’t think the teams who drafted them are currently taking a victory lap. Top 32 WR. In other words, are their teams thrilled with the production they got with their 1st round / 2nd round pick? With each of those players, I’m not sure I’d agree that their teams are thrilled … as they weren’t (or likely won’t be) re-signed.

Not my intended point! It's a great WR class this year and perfect time to take one in Round 1 or 2. My only objection is this point I seem to hear constantly on Bills podcasts that state "there's a ton of value available in Round 2." That doesn't seem accurate.

I've heard a lot of Bills talking heads raving about 2nd round WR success -- Deebo Samuel, AJ Brown, etc. It's a hot topic with the podcasting community as everyone seems to be laser focused at WR in round 1 or 2. So, I was curious to research the hit rate of WR in 1st round vs 2nd round the past several years. The results might surprise you. I marked "++" for plus starters each year, which I would define as a top 32 wideout. The past 2 seasons are TBD, so I started in 2021. Totals: 11 out of 28 first round picks ended up being plus starters (39%). 6 out of 33 second round picks ended up being plus starters (18%). 2021: 1st Round Ja'Marr Chase ++ Jaylen Waddle ++ DeVonta Smith ++ Kadarius Toney Rashod Bateman 2nd Round Elijah Moore Rondale Moore D'Wayne Eskridge Tutu Atwell Terrace Marshall Jr 2020: 1st Round Henry Ruggs Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb ++ Jalen Reagor Justin Jefferson ++ Brandon Aiyuk ++ 2nd Round Tee Higgins ++ Michael Pittman ++ Laviska Shenault KJ Hamler Chase Claypool Van Jefferson Denzel Mims 2019: 1st Round Marquise Brown N'Keal Harry 2nd Round Deebo Samuel ++ AJ Brown ++ Mecole Hardman JJ Arcega-Whiteside Parris Campbell Andy Isabella DK Metcalf ++ 2018: 1st Round: DJ Moore ++ Calvin Ridley 2nd Round: Courtland Sutton Dante Pettis Christian Kirk Anthony MIller James Washintgon DJ Chark 2017: 1st Round: Corey Davis Mike Williams ++ John Ross 2nd Round: Zay Jones Curtis Samuel JuJu Smith-Schuster 2016: 1st Round: Corey Coleman Will Fuller Josh Doctson Laquon Treadwell 2nd Round: Sterling Shepard Michael Thomas +? Tyler Boyd 2015: 1st Round: Amari Cooper ++ Kevin White DeVante Parker Nelson Agholor Breshad Perriman Phillip Dorsett 2nd Round: Devin Smith Dorial Green-Beckham So ... when you hear the talking heads describing 1st and 2nd round as both being a hot bed for WR talent historically, this is just recency bias due to a few good players coming from the 2020 and 2019 first and second round. There have been been A LOT of JAGs mixed in as well... but maybe they forgot. Hope you enjoy the analysis.