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You do not throw that ball short. You don't call a play where the ball goes short. Always throw down field in that situation.

You never throw short in that situation. That was setting up your rookie to fail.

Yikes

It wasn't his performance that ran him out of town, it was fans... Right

Honestly for the sake of his career, this is the best time to call it. Made the playoffs which was awesome, gave it another go in a season that went downhill quick, and is now walking away with at least the playoff birth. He knows this team won't be contending for at least a couple years if everything pans out. We may have another tough season next year. Its tough how many vets we get back year after year to continually lose and it totally veils their career.

I doubt the dolphins gift him anything. This isn't a Favre/Strahan level player. Great Bill, but just another good player who's been with one team for a while.

8-8, my mistake.

Marrone 9-7, Rex 9-7, Sean McClappy got lucky. You would be a fool to think otherwise.

He didn't have a good game by any means but he isn't the reason we lost. Need better next year for sure.

Had the same weaknesses in college which I've brought up before and everyone got angry at me for. He was not drafted for his football ability, these guys love physical attributes for some reason: tall and fast is better than short and slow (their best LB Zo proves why that is wrong every single week).

Did anyone really in their heart of hearts, actually think we could win with this piss poor excuse of a roster?

Star is overpaid. That's about it.

I love how hyped up this ***** defense is. They beat up on bad teams.

Remember when Allen was a future Hall of Famer last week? Slow down.

Kyle simply isn't a good run defender. I'll be the only one to keep saying it but we STILL need to upgrade at interior DL.

I thought this thread was going somewhere like "do not jump to conclusions on QB" and then the ending point was jumping to a conclusion. Allen is fun but the honeymoon period ends after 2 games. We need wins, TDs, yards, and less turnovers next year. A lot of the book left to be written.

I imagine these stats include his first 5-6 games that were largely awful. Since then he's been a decent rookie.

Whole body of work is above average to good. Fine player, yes. Overrated, yes. Beloved, undoubtedly. We do this thing where liking a player makes them better at football.

Still too early, everyone was gushing over early Bortles/Mariota. HOWEVER, win or lose, this for me was a wonderful game for Josh. He trusted the pocket. I have been saying for a few weeks that our pass blocking isn't nearly as bad as a lot of us think. Trust your guys to pick up their assignments instead of taking off, which he did more often than not, and let guys get open. Another step towards being a better QB. He still needs to work on ball security, way too many ducks, just throw it out of bounds. Also Zay Jones sucks. This is exactly what I think when I see him play. Arm talent of Eli, BUT, he has mobility of Cam.

This many people taking Barkley are insane. Do you guys realize the next best RB from this class was undrafted and arguably with the same # of touches is more productive than SB.

Why couldn't we have just taken Mahomes...I can't even freaking enjoy this kid, it's just like Mack, every huge play/sack reminds me how unbelievable dumb the people managing this team are.

We didn't lose because of the defense but for a team that thumps their chest about defense and uses endless assets on that side of the ball... They have to close it out.

Not sure that's what he meant

I'm not disputing anything you are saying but to be frank, he really only is better at running. EJ made very phenomenal throws and it really is not my fault you are going to pretend it never happened. He was wildly inconsistent and made some head scratching plays (sounds familiar). Allen plays a lot harder and his surrounding cast is abysmal but if you don't just look at 1 or 2 games, he's got a lot to prove. The whole point of my post is for you guys to not jump to conclusions and you ended your post with exactly that. I was a huge Allen non-believer and he's proving me wrong SO FAR and I pray he continues to do it for the next 10 years.

Maybe but give me a vet. Make that an option. At this point EJ had a comparable to better start to his career. Slow it down guys.