JM2009

yep. The defense did not get the ball back nearly enough .Couldn't hang onto leads.

The reload nonsense again. This team is going on 18 years without one playoff appearance. Reload what?

The problem with the Bills defense was stopping the run and not getting enough turnovers. Plus being undisciplined. I hope he has a healthy offense to work with. Injuries will happen, but the Bills are due for some luck in this area. If Crusher wants to discuss other topics than the QB, then I'll engage with him. You should do the same.We know how nasty he has got in the past. let him be miserable.

Nope. I posted many times before that game that even EJ could beat a Jets team that had given up. I was wrong. He's that bad.

Like the second Miami game? Give him a better defense in 2016 and the Bills would have made the playoffs not Miami. probably lose in the first round, but who cares. This ridiculous streak would have ended.

No matter which stance anyone takes, insults,agendas, and nasty posting should never be allowed for any topic, much less this one.

All message boards are the same. This one is no different. Crusher called people names and was even nastier on the BBMB. He was probably told to quiet it down in here some. Only response to this is-TT is the bills starter. He is not terrible. "Your boy" comments make me think that you won't root for the team to win because he is the starter. Take the season off if you have to then. Even when EJ started that last game I rooted for him. I want to win. That is the bottom line for fans, or is supposed to be. A few from the BBMB and a few on this board have different agendas then winning, this season.

The defense was the main problem in 2016 and it kept the Bills out of the playoffs.

Good post.

McCoy????

That last game was a waste of time. team quit.

SMH

Me too! lol

Was the board down for a bit?

I'm pretty sure that the Pegulas got it right with these hires. Time will tell.

Could be one the reasons.

7 and 8 wins-and TT didn't play the full season either year. Only QB to due better than 8 wins like he had in 2015, was Bledsoe, during this drought. TT plays in that Jacksonville game in 2015-9 wins. If he played in that game last season 8 wins. Should have had 8 wins again with the second Miami game.

Good points. I think Orton was better, but we'll never really know.

You and a few others try way to hard to diminish the starting QB of this team. He is the best we have at this point and is a capable player. If you cannot stand that, then take the season off is my advice. So, he and the offense were bad in that game. They put up enough points throughout the season to be a playoff team if the defense was better throughout the season.14 more games to look at. the last game was a waste because the team gave up with EJ starting.

Too bad this is a ridiculous conclusion. TT puts his whole heart and body into every game, and his leadership shows on the field. Who cares about 300 yard games when you turn the ball over and lose.

True. Also true, but doesn't take into account the Fitz turnovers at the worst time.

And for the 100 millionth time, TT is better than Fitz. How many times does this nonsense have to go back and forth. Again TT is a better QB than the Fitz. The defense was the main problem last season, not the offense. the last two seasons with TT as QB,, the Bills offense is one of the higher scoring offenses in the NFL.

Winning is the best marketing a team can have. Since SJF 17 years-no playoffs 17 years.

yeah, maybe. I guess he would be in between the bad and the three I listed. The guy gave his all, that's for sure.

Many sites list wins with the QB. I don't mind either way. But 14-14/ 15-14 when he plays, is far from terrible. Bledsoe, Orton, Taylor-only QBs so far worth discussing since 2001. Like the Colts game. Cassel gets the first snap. Taylor plays the whole game and Cassel gets the W.