Doc Brown

Yes. Thanks. It was either Pat or Kyle on my mind with DT's. Strange coincidence that the Bills drafted a player with a first name Deone and a player with the last name Sanders before his kid was taken in the same draft.

It would be nice for the Bills to build a strong enough team where a B+ game by Allen gets them past the Chiefs. I think you can address it by re imagining your defense with some new players especially on the d-line and a minor tweak in philosophy which is why I think McDermott brought in some outside guys to his defensive staff. I agree about the lack of play makers and I doubt Palmer or Moore move the needle. However, I didn't think Mack Hollins and James Cook would step up as big as they did in the AFC Championship game last year so who knows. I'd sacrifice TJ Williams and Chase Lundt if it meant getting DK Metcalf but I digress. As far as criticism of Allen goes, if you're the highest paid player in the league you should be scrutinized as long as its fair. I couldn't care less about the fragility of the fan base. Regardless of how our defense played he still had the ball down three with a chance to win the game. The offense didn't come through either time. Allen's also 0-5 in overtime when the offense has had the ball needing a TD to win. There's room for growth.

This thread took a bizarre turn. I kind of like it.

We're going to have to agree to disagree. I don't want that entitled and cocky kid within 100 miles of Orchard Park.

Good memory. I didn't know that WR ever existed. I think he caught it between like four Bills. I just remember them completing a 4th and forever the last drive and then winning it with no time left after four straight passes to the end zone. Not sure if it was Leftwich or Garrard.

Browns just gave him a $230m fully guaranteed contract out of habit.

That's the point I was trying to make given the anonymous negative reports that came out with him regarding the draft process. I get the argument for having a cost controlled 5th round backup QB for four years that you might be able to flip a pick for but only if that player is willing to accept the role as a backup (what Beane tried to do with Jake Fromm). Based off everything I've seen and heard from him and his father.....that's not happening.

It's based off Vegas betting odds which is pry the best predictor you can have as free agency and the draft are now over. Still though. You're right. The hard schedule we've theoretically had to play in the past often as you playing Easton Stick in late December.

I thought I was alone on this take. It was one of the most botched sequences I've seen and was even worse than anything 13 seconds related imo. The standard counter was well he would've completed it to Shakir in the end zone if Jones didn't back Dawkins into him messing up the throw. No. The odds of him hitting that throw were extremely low even if he threw it untouched. Also, even if they get the TD there isn't a sole on planet earth who thought the Bills hobbled defense led by AJ Klein was going to stop the Chiefs from winning that game with that much time left. I didn't know whether to blame Brady for even giving Allen that option or Allen for getting greedy when you had a guy wide open running six yards across the field. The situational awareness was just awful the way that game was playing out. I think we were too banged up to beat Baltimore the next week but I would've at least liked to see them try.

Mel Gibson. +10,000

He was a 2nd round talent that dropped to the 5th round because teams wanted to avoid the headache of having him as a backup. If any team wanted to employ your strategy he would've been taken in the 3rd or 4th round. Not worth the headache.

Official now. Weird delay.

That must've taken some time. Well done. Best was the 31-0 stomping we did of the Patriots. Sam Adams making the Sports Illustrated cover was actually considered a big deal back in the day. Let's just not talk about the regular season finale that year. The worst was pry the Jags game on that last second TD given the hype that came before that season. I think the home loss as heavy favorites to the Steelers in 2021 should be much lower.

Faux outrage because of something Trump did? No way. I'm willing to bet 99% of it is faux outrage and the one's that were personally offended aren't politicians using social media to say how offended they were.

I think we all know it's not Joe Marino. Lol. Spoiler alert, I'm not Christopher Lloyd.

I would never do it with Sanders's kid because the slight possible upgrade in backup QB is not worth the noise that comes with it. You'd be naive to think there wouldn't be noise as one of the reasons Sanders slipped in the draft was because no team thought he or his father would be fine with him as a backup. Logically, it makes sense maybe 20 years ago but how often do you see NFL teams fall for the Rob Johnson type bait anymore. The four QB's you just quoted were traded before the Obama administration. I can't remember a QB that was taken in the later rounds of the draft that was flipped for a significantly better pick since Schaub. The only thing you really see now are small transactions like the Pats drafted Milton in the 6th round and he was flipped for a 5th with the Cowboys. Maybe 25 years ago he gets flipped for a 1st.

So those dirty safeties don't creep up and it can help open the intermediate space for the other WR's to work. Davis for all his faults didn't take the top off defenses like true burners but was a more credible deep threat than what we have now. John Brown was pry are last WR who had enough juice to take the top off a defense. MVS didn't work out last year.

Totally fair. I just reacted with a shrug because it's not a departure from his personality.

No. That's a straw man argument that Obama himself declared himself as some holy entity. He didn't. Nobody held a gun to Trump's head and said retweet this silly social media post. I could see how deeply religious Catholics could view that as offensive.

Bills haven't even officially claimed they've agreed to terms. I don't even think the contract has been signed yet. Maybe it has to do with the unrestricted free agent tender the Browns placed on him. Who knows but my guess is $3.5m guaranteed with not likely to be earned incentives up to $5m.

I hate having to defend a poster but he didn't say that was the reason they lost those games. There's a reason we were all thrilled when Beane traded for Cooper after those two losses. At the time our WR's were 25th or worse in targets, receptions, receiving yards and receiving first downs. I'm already looking at what WR from another team we can acquire maybe mid season again.

Much cheaper labor in those countries by quite a bit. Even before Trump took office China's exports to the US fell from 20% in 2018 to about 13% in 2023.

India runs children sweatshops too. You may be willing to sacrifice but I guarantee you that most Americans won't. Depending on the poll, the range of Americans living paycheck to paycheck is between 65 to 80%.

He's had at least proven in the past he can put up good but not elite numbers. Being injury prone make it unlikely but of Samuel, Moore, and Palmer he's probably the WR the most potential to have a rebound year. Coleman and Kincaid drastically improving is really the most realistic chance to making this passing game more prolific next season.