Doc Brown

He said good WRs. I know jack squat when it comes to evaluating WR's. Trends are much easier to identify though. If you can find a disappointing WR given where he was drafted that breaks out in year five despite given ample opportunity his first four years to prove himself let me know. Even with bad Browns QB play last year when they targeted Jeudy they had a 94.7% passer rating. When they targeted Moore they had a 42.4% passer rating which put him 98th of 98th qualifying WR's according to PFF. Ideally, if he makes the team he is our 5th WR who I pray will only see the field if one of the top four are injured.

Ok. I take my take back on Beane coming across as thin skinned. These guys had it coming.

Good point. Teams have gotten wiser imo of letting quality WR's hit the open market. Jerry Jeudy is the only other one that comes to mind although he did technically sign an extension before the 5th year of his rookie deal. I think they knew the relationship was done and that he might even take less in guarantees to play for another team. At worst you're stuck together on a pretty team friendly deal. Smart of them to do with the comp pick formula (wish they would do away with comp picks tbh).

He's had over 100 targets the last two years though so those yards aren't that impressive when he did about the same with the Jets on less targets. I don't see him getting 100 targets here. Character concerns scare me with this guy. He forced his way off the Jets and based upon recent reports he wasn't happy in Cleveland's offense either. Two teams invested a 2nd round pick in him and he only played for those teams for two years. I know it's the Jets and the Browns but still. Both seemed to have no problem moving on from him. I think if teams thought he has the potential to be a Superstar we wouldn't be able to get him post draft for such a low base salary. I'll be interested in seeing the contract details to see how much dead cap we would eat if he doesn't make the roster OJ Howard style.

If they need a pregnant woman stand in my wife said she could lose 30 pounds.

So you're saying there's room for improvement. Do the Bills pro scouting department knows what it's doing when it comes to WR? Every year it seems like somebody is trying to sell me a WR who's never had over 900 yards receiving being unlocked because of Josh Allen (Harty, Sherfield, Samuel, MVS, Crowder, Isabella even). I'm hearing the same sales pitch now with Palmer and Moore. The one's that have worked out (Brown, Beasley, Sanders, Diggs) did it before. At least with Hollins I knew the floor was Jake Kumerow so I wasn't expecting much and was pleasantly surprised every time he made a play.

If it means more federal holidays than hell yeah. WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan, Civil War. That's seven extra right there.

That's probably likely. I don't know exactly how they factor in QB play into account in each WR's grade. Not paying their membership fee.

PFF is garbage when it comes to Moore. PFF is the best indicator of true WR quality when it comes to Hollins. Am I doing that right?

I feel okay with Rapp out there. Not thrilled with the options at the other spot. Banking on Bishop markedly improving is not a smart plan imo. Safety is definitely our weakest position group in terms of both quality and depth.

Yes. He was extremely hesitant to throw in Diggs, Beasley, Brown, E. Sanders, Hollins, and Coleman into the starting lineup because they were "new." It's never been a mystery with McDermott. He puts in the players that he feels gives him the best chance to win. I'm guessing the offensive coordinator has the exact same philosophy.

Yeah. I forgot to add his name so even I got confused there. I'll edit it to make me seem less idiotic than usual. You're right though in the disconnect between the type of WR's Beane drafts compared to the WR's he's had success with (Shakir being the only exception). Heck, even an older E. Sanders had more success compared to guys like Coleman (so far) and Davis.

Man. You guys will swallow anything. It rebounded because investors are making a bet that Trump will continue to back down on tariff implementation because it'll spook the markets too much.

Hollins made plays but he wasn't exactly a tough matchup for CB's in man coverage. He was ranked 87th of 99 WR's that qualified in terms of receiving ability according to PFF FWIW. His blocking will be the most missed part of his game. Correlation doesn't exactly equal causation but our offense put up 30 plus points in eight straight games when we traded for Cooper. We definitely got faster and Palmer and Moore's skill set (smaller, shiftier, better route runners/separators) is what Allen has thrived with in WR's in the past (Diggs, Brown, Beasley, Shakir, and even McKenzie to some extent).

No. It was the tariffs. Stock market spiked his first couple of weeks before he started with his tariff nonsense.

If you read insane people on a regular basis you yourself become insane.

You're at a point where you're arguing how a crappy tariff act wasn't the main driver of the Great Depression. You're right by the way but implementing universal tariffs is still just an awful policy.

Correct. I've always just wanted a simple flat tax system but that won't happen. It would be prudent of Republicans to use their majority to tweak the TCJA of 2017 tax legislation that reduced taxes across the board. Lowering the corporate tax rate makes a lot more sense to me than tariffs if you want to incentive businesses to invest in America and create more jobs and economic growth.. They lowered it to 21% from 35% with the TCJA and Trump was pushing for 15%. Maybe they can meet in the middle. That's the best tactic imo if you want to relying less on foreign imports as companies will be secure in investing here knowing there's actual legislation that simply can't be changed by the whims of one person.

That's actual legislation that would have to passed through Congress. There's already lawsuits in states and businesses across the country challenging whether Trump isn't abusing the International Emergency Economic Powers Act with his tariffs. The stock market could see a lot of volatility based on the results of these lawsuits.

Shhhh......I'm using it as an excuse.

They're all black guys.

It just makes me a little skittish when your team is winning but you're complaining about your targets. He also was the Browns 2nd WR in terms of targets is two years there. Pry not going to happen here. I'm sure he was vetted by the Bills brass and he's pry matured since then. Or, again, it was the Jets.

I don't really know what to make of this because it's the Jets but I'm not sure he's going to be happy as a WR4 or WR5. Again, it's the Jets. https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-wr-elijah-moore-breaks-202500715.html The second-year pro out of Ole Miss remains on the team despite having been frustrated enough with his reduced role in the offense to ask for a trade. The Jets declined his request and now that the trade deadline has come and gone, the two sides need to figure out how to work together. Hours after the Jets’ 27-10 victory against the Packers on Oct. 16, Moore quoted a tweet saying he was targetted zero times. “If I say what I really wanna say… I’ll be the selfish guy…we winning,” Moore said in the tweet. “Grateful! Huge blessing! All I ever wanted. Bittersweet for me, but I’ll be solid. So I’ll just stay quiet. Just know I don’t understand either.” While he practiced on Wednesday of the following week, the 2021 second-round pick was sent home the next day following a reported disagreement with Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur. Then Jets coach Robert Saleh announced before the game against the Broncos on Oct. 23 that Moore would not travel with the rest of the team following his trade request. Moore returned to the team following the win against the Broncos but played only 10 snaps in the 22-17 loss against the Patriots. Although he was not traded, Moore said it wasn’t easy to turn the page and start over fresh with the Jets organization. “I’m a human, so it takes time,” Moore said. “Being the man that I am, I always try to reset my mind every time I go home. I go to the things that I believe in and that’s God. Again, please keep in mind he was on the Jets.

I don't care about the talking heads. Americans needed someone to blame for post Covid inflation and they voted in kind. Now all Trump has to do after removing the Biden era regulations and extend the tax cuts is sit back and let the free market thrive. Instead, he's going full Bernie Sanders on us with these tariffs. I never though it would take a Republican president to convince people on the left to keep the government out of our lives as much as possible.

True. He doesn't have the largest catch radius and that's a huge problem for a QB like Winston or DTR who couldn't hit water if they fell off a boat.