DFT

You make a good argument. But there’s the other side of the coin in what statistically is the hardest position in professional sports, to be good at. The “Try hard but still fail” folks, like Losman and EJ Manuel, we’re both picked to bust, in their drafts. Both were notorious workers, but in the end, both just could not have their talent align with their competencies. Where Allen gives me hope though, is through what he’s done to develop in the offseason and his wonderlic assessment being so high. To say comparing Allen to Losman or Manuel is a stretch is an understatement. Allen’s upside is just insane. But sometimes that elevator just won’t go to that top floor no matter how hard you push the button.

Evan Silva hates the Bills. His knowledge of football is more tied to being a fan and fantasy pundit, rather than scout or personnel guy. Sometimes a fan’s flame burns bright enough, to make their sentiments echo a little louder. Other times, you get Silva. A young guy, who writes nice stuff, but is truly inexperienced in player personnel and transitional competencies. In other words... A poor man’s Mel Kiper, with heavier affiliation to the Patriots and Jets, but without nearly the film study acumen or non-subjective perspective. But I’ve heard through reputable sources that he is an avid sorter of recycled goods, so there’s that.

Agreed. I don’t know the reason for Allen over Rosen, but the decision will see that these two young men will be tied to each other to start their careers. Every fan that wanted Rosen over Allen will measure these two, accordingly for their first few years. I will say this though... my worry with Rosen (aside from my horrible ability to scout QBs), was that he would have struggled to handle the fan base and media in Buffalo. I don’t have that fear at all, with Allen. I think Allen, in that regard, has a tremendous leg up on every other QB in this draft. He is definitely a coaches dream, from an acumen, talent and coach-ability standpoint. Whether he can put it all together, remains to be seen.

I can’t speak to why they chose to pass. But what Rosen said after he was selected is what I would want in my QB. He’s a competitor, through and through.

I don’t think so. I think Maybin, Mccargo and Whitner would agree. As would EJ. Those are drafts where the consensus was almost unanimous in disapproval. It’s a shame I could only “like” this post once.

Allen is all that stands in the way of many, that would give this draft an A+. Nobody is wrong in thinking that way. Allen represents the time honored conundrum of Elite upside vs Incredible risk. For every single example of the risk panning out, 20 more examples could be given of the risk not and thus, setting a franchise back. But I’ll admit, as word broke late of a Rosen resurgence at one Bills, I believed he was the guy. I was all in and would’ve bet my career on it. But alas, I’m officially wrong ten times out of ten. And... here we are. In my career, I’ve been fortunate enough to coach, scout and have had the pleasure of working with some incredible folks along the way. So I’ve asked a few their collective thoughts and the one thing that gives me pause, is the consensus of where they all seem to focus. And it’s not Josh Allen. Two names continue to jump out in conversations well before Josh Allen. Those names are Harrison Phillips and Wyatt Teller. They’re wildly popular picks among some very trusted and inciteful football minds and when weighed against some of the better documented commentary of ESPN, NFLN, CBS and others, it all aligns to a consensus. These two guys are going to make some potentially big impacts for the Bills. They are universal considered to be steals and should be, as both offer the same nasty demeanor, lunch pail Workmanship and high-level of play that a team and fan base like Buffalo, would covet. But there’s more to this draft... So much more. Tremaine Edmunds is a disturbing and intimidating freak of nature. His skill set and potential to fill out his 19 year old frame is frightening. Already considered “plug and play”, he has, what many feel, is the highest upside at his position. While I don’t quite agree with that, I would suggest his upside is well described in “Urlacher” territory. He will benefit most from the NFL S&C program, but oh my, what a budding star he could be. Taron Johnson was my second highest rated slot corner in this draft. Pro ready, sticky in short areas, but lacking in long-speed, I thought he was a value add, where he was drafted. I don’t expect to see him in anything but slot coverage, year 1, but I do expect him to potentially start in nickel and dime packages. Good pickup. Proehl, McCloud and Neal, are each decent picks, though I don’t see any (aside from McCloud on ST), having a sizeable contribution this year. Then there’s that guy, Josh Allen. A Jeff George arm, Elite athleticism, incredible offseason, but a shaky-at-best resume. I struggle to get excited. As a player, you just want to see this kid put it together. If he could just be sorta good, he’ll have an incredible career ahead of him. But when the pressure is on, in an environment such as Buffalo, where fans are as unforgiving as possible, he’s got his work cut out for him. But oh, how the McCarron signing is even more of a tremendous one. This is where some of my colleagues, who offer much more than I ever will, have reminded me of what McCarron’s real value is. He’s a coach. Though limited in his own skills, he has off the charts acumen, Just like Allen’s mentor, Jordan Palmer. He and our newly placed coordinator are the best things that could happen to Allen. But Allen has his work cut out for him. Though there’s not a lot of criticism for the pick, there’s not a ton of optimism. Allen, Beane and McD will all have the stigma of “what would this draft have been if it were the other Josh at 7”. I for one think he’ll be a vastly superior QB and the best of this class. I was sure he was their guy. His upside was manningesque and his floor was Matt Ryan, in my mind. Time will tell, but I, like so many, can only be hopefully that these folks saw something that so many didn’t. If they did, well then this draft will definitely be special. If Allen rises to meet half of his potential, then my Durkee-covered crow is well-deserved and easy to eat. I want that, badly. I want to be steeped in wrongness. I hope I am. But the rest of this class, they’re going to pack an awfully well-received punch. Stop me if you’ve heard this before... “the Buffalo Bills drafted a versatile player”. That’s what they did, that’s what they do and that’s what they’re creating. Players with the morale and athleticism to fill whatever role is asked of them. They succeeded with this draft, in my opinion, but if Allen himself isn’t successful and say, Rosen is, this draft may be lost on folks. but Bills fans should be very excited about this draft. This front office did an almost masterful job. There’s a lot of optimism surrounding what just happened. Josh Allen is the only component of whether this will be looked as a great draft or seen as a generational draft, for the Buffalo Bills.

This thread is awfully full of unawareness that turns quickly to anger. Yikes. McCloud was a very solid pick.

Could be the steal of the draft. He has the potential to be very good, for very long.

There’s some pretty heavy-handed and baseless opinions here, so I’ll just say I disagree with your entire perspective and move along. Josh Rosen has more similarities to Peyton, than Eli. The best comparison I’ve seen is a more pro-ready Matt Ryan. But again... whatevs.

“He also said explicitly, that he believed Rudolph will be there at 22.” If you’re basing that comment on someone offering their “belief” as some notion of fact, then yes. He and every analyst on planet earth knows where players are drafted beforehand.

No, he absolutely is not. He’s saying that Rudolph should not be forgotten in the QB fold. He also said explicitly, that he believed Rudolph will be there at 22.

Rosen.

Rosen

People just can’t handle their special brew, these days...

Yes, just need Ajayi as well.

@Jay_Fixit has always been my source. He looks great in shorter than average swim trunks and sips espresso slowly, but semi-manly. I’ve heard he is an avid fan of noodling and frozen yogurt, but I’d defer to my source.

Rosen. But I’m wrong 9 times out of 10.

Yikes... I think he was making fun of the media, with this. I mean.... Yeesh.

Shame on you!

Wow. A lot of insane hatred for Peterman. That didn’t take long. We’ll done, all....

Boy, it sure does.... you’re just seeing more first round projected QBs this year than almost any previous year, in the last 15 years. QBs get overdrafted. But what’s the overdraft indicator when there’s a first round grade, like the top 5-6 QBs in this draft? The smoke and talk this year is no different than years passed. Just way more prospects to consider.

Wine coolers... am I right, guys?

Pats, Skins, Seahawks Or 49ers. That’s my guess. And he’s not nearly as done as people think.

Free Agency is going to look very different next year. Get your QB this year. Do anything and everything to get your QB in this draft.

Have you seen that incarcerated Bob guy? To a tee....