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Dirk Koetter in Tampa Bay. Giants are said to be considering a full rebuild so Shurmur might stick around if they want him to lead the way.

Yikes. That's the exact combination one has to use to unlock Fitzmagic.

Makes no sense when I see people calling for trades on the good players this team has. Just because they're in a rebuild doesn't mean they're going to get rid of every single veteran on the team. There are a number of veteran guys that are firmly locked in for their future plans and Hughes is one of them. DL is one of the groups that's rounding out into a really good unit. They've built that. Why remove a cornerstone of it? I dunno, I understand people get frustrated and wanna "blow it all up" but there is a plan in place despite things looking like chaos at the moment. Injuries and some underachievers have derailed things a bit but that stuff happens. Hitting "reset" in the middle of a reset just guarantees a longer time until they're competitive again. They finally decided to tear it all down and run a true rebuild, which so many have wanted, here we are halfway through the year and so many people wanna throw in the towel. Not gonna happen. Pegulas trust these guys and they all knew 2018 would be a rough one. But they've said they're mostly done with trimming the roster, now it's about adding to where they need to upgrade whether that's through trade, FA or the draft and developing things. Obviously they'll still sign and cut players as usual but I'm pretty sure they have their foundation and now they wanna start building the house.

Was Jameis stinkin' up the joint or is it because they're down by 18 and don't wanna risk the starter getting hurt?

Beane and McDermott report directly to the Pegulas and communicate with them regularly. The Pegulas are giving them room to do their work and giving the green light on the decisions these guys wanna make. They trust them. And if you're referring to when they first took over as owners, they spoke with Bill Polian who says an offer was made (Pegulas say there was not) and then later moved on from the idea. I'm sure they've shifted some personnel around internally to replace Brandon.

He hasn't really played much better or different, for that matter. He's experiencing a lot of the same issues Allen is, difficulty/inexperience reading/adjusting to coverages, spotty OL play leading to sacks or bailing on the pocket, inaccurate throws, etc. He's having a rough go of it as well. And your assessment that the WRs are better and the TEs are a push is off... I'd say the receivers can be a push when Jets have their main guys healthy and Clay is better than Seferian-Jenkins.

The Jets. Worse WR group, worse RB group, no TEs...yeah, they're in rough shape. A lot of these teams with young QBs have a lot of building today.

Nice, thanks

I keep trying to find the throws the kid made in the Texans game. He looked like he was making some progress on that game in terms of getting rid of it on time and accurately. On the play he was injured he zipped one into a tight window to KB. I think he also had a very nice on time throw to Clay. There was also that improvised play where he hit KB for what would've been a 45 yard gain had it not been for a illegal frickin' procedure penalty. I'm sure I could find this stuff thru the All 22 videos but I'm not trying to pay a subscription fee just to see a few throws. And I know of @YardsPerPass on Twitter, he does a lot of play by play breakdowns on his feed but hasn't been active in a few weeks. Cover1 is another dude I follow but I didn't see anything on his blog. Just wondering if anyone can point me in that direction. Go Bills.

Exactly. And even as of late I've seen people saying they should've kept Brown and drafted an offensive player over Edmunds. I think Brown is a decent LB but he doesn't have the athleticism to regularly run with RBs or TEs which is something McDermott's system asks for from the linebackers. I think they definitely see a "do it all" player in Edmunds.

Loaded question, no win scenario. Take Ridley and everyone shifts gears to, "OMG, they neglected the linebackers AGAIN! This team is gonna get gashed for billions of run yards this season! Milano was a fluke, Alexander is ancient, fire McBeane!!!" Take Edmunds and we get what we got now, "This team neglected the receiver group!" Can't fix it all in one draft or one off-season. The path to success is never a straight line. And yes, this kid is gonna be a good one. Aside from typical rookie mistakes he's made, all the talk on him from coaches to teammates has been overwhelmingly positive. "He doesn't make the same mistake twice," "He's a Hall of Famer," (obviously it's a bit early to be calling that but one of his teammates, I think Tre' White actually, was that psyched about him) etc. etc. I think he's only gonna get better. He's leading in tackles, he's forced two or three fumbles, broke up a few passes. He pops up in some fashion during every game, soon hopefully those flashes will be big time plays like sacks and picks.

Yep. He definitely fits the description of "grizzled vet."

Don't expect a turn-around this season, but long-term, yeah, I have confidence these guys can do it. Gotta give them time. Everyone wants to dog this regime and kick them out while they're in the middle of the exact thing another new regime would be doing. We wanna quit on this rebuild so another regime can come in and do a rebuild of the rebuild? Perpetually hiring a new staff every other year is a surefire way to stay in the basement for the foreseeable future.

"I'll be right with you guys," then he grabbed the remaining items in his locker and walked out. Hasn't been heard from since lol.

No doubt, I agree with your take on Tate. He would definitely be helpful but I just don't know if Beane would wanna spend big money (he'd demand a solid contract, as he should, he's earned it) on a guy that doesn't figure into their long-term plans. But perhaps they might feel the same as you and think it's worth it to bring him in for the things the WR group can learn from him. They're gonna need to look at guys who are really good at adjusting to oddly-placed throws. It's gonna take Allen some time to dial in that accuracy and that was one reason a lot of people felt Tanner Gentry would've been a decent pick up as one of his standout traits in college was his ability to adjust on the fly to an inaccurate throw from Allen. Tyrell Williams would be nice, big and fast. He keeps balling out like he did last week, though, and he's gonna have teams in a bidding war for him. The list of FA's as it is now is gonna look a lot different by the time FA actually starts, though. Not only will we see players receive extensions to stay with the same team, but we'll also see cap casualties and other cuts. Definitely should be one of the more active off-seasons for this team.

The dude is quite the weasel-turd, IMO. Given your nickname for him, I imagine you feel the same.

So I wanna see Jerry Hughes not get a lifetime ban, man!

Yarp. I truly think that McD got a recommendation straight from Reid on Culley. That's the only reason I can see as to why the guy is here coaching the kid they believe is their franchise guy. He must be good at something considering Reid kept him on his staff in Philly for 12 seasons and then brought him on board in KC for four more. I admit though, I'm not a big fan. I think this is one area where they needed to be looking at younger assistant coaches that are digging into the future of football. I woulda been going after the DeFilippo guy. He turned Wentz into a beast and is doing good things with Cousins right now. Of course he would've taken an OC job over a QB coach job, though. I dunno, maybe in the off-season they should try to pluck someone off of McVay's staff or something. I understand what McDermott wants the foundation of this team to be, strong defense, solid run game, a QB who can make a big play now and that's fine, that formula does work. But with the direction the game is headed, I just feel like it'd be really beneficial to have one of these younger, up and coming coaches that have been able to blend elements of the college schemes these QBs know so well while also familiarizing them with pro concepts.

Doh! Called out on the face-planting. Last time I even came close to eating dirt like that was when I got so psyched up seeing Dalton hit Boyd for that TD that sent our boys to the playoffs. Ran up and down my hallway and caught my foot on a rug and almost bit it. I'll take an injury in celebration over an injury in despair any day, though!

Don't get me wrong, I love me some Golden Tate, great player, but he'll be 31 or 32 heading into next season and with the whole youth movement direction this team is going in, I can't see them making a run at Tate. Not sure of his situation but I wonder if he'll get an extension from Detroit before the year is done. Yeldon I mentioned in another thread, I think he can be a viable replacement if McCoy is done here. I also think they'll take one in the draft, earliest round I'd guess is third and latest probably the fifth. If they end up with a top five pick, they're gonna be in excellent position to get one of these big time DL coming up. Although, with so many needs, if they do find themselves in the top five, I'd be hoping for them to trade down and acquire more capital. Yeah, I'd be bummed if they had to pass on Ed Oliver or something but, they just have so many spots to fill.

I prefer to smack my face on the floor as hard as possible when the Bills make me keel over, cause, hey, I figure it feels better than seeing them get their dupas handed to them each week lol

Haha, fitting they call themselves Trainwreck, I guess. I mean, they could have a source, but could also be speculating. Like I said before, I think the fact that they label him week-to-week allows them some wiggle room if he misses more time than anticipated. I don't think the Bills themselves have actually said, "He's out until this date" it's been other media sources speculating on how long it takes to heal up from an elbow sprain but that stuff is dependent on the person. No reason to rush him, so however long needs, let him heal up.

I mean, sure, I'd like to see Gronk receive his comeuppance but you know if it happened, the next time a Bills player came within 3 feet of Brady it would be flag city. "Sneezing near Mr. Brady, #55 defense, ten million yards, lifetime ban from the NFL."

I was gonna mention what Yolo had posted about him possibly being out until December. I've never heard of that Trainwreck Sports so I have no idea how credible they are but given that the team refuses to put an actual number of weeks on when he'll be back and instead choosing to label him "week to week" is a sign that the injury is one that could heal up in a few weeks or could drag on for a couple months, just depends on the person.

Yeah, I thought that too. But, everyone already knows us as the whackadoodles that hurl themselves through tables and partake in bedroom-time activities in the middle of a crowded tailgate. And given that it's near Halloween, I fully expect to see some people in big ol' wiener costumes out there. Maybe some with a sign saying, "Property of T. Brady." You have a couch specifically available to catch you when you faint? How often do you pass out, man? Maybe you should get that checked out.