Bray Wyatt

Look I am skeptical of the intelligence too. I dont forget and we cannot know that for certain until later. But as you are pointing out Israel's actions are certainly out of character, which to me lends credence to that they at least believe it to be true.

And what has changed since then? They were getting too close to actually having the ability to wipe Israel off the face of the earth with their nuclear program.

We already went over the fact that Israel started attacking Iran under BIden. As others have pointed out, "Syria collapses, as the Israelis use that to destroy existing air defenses and create a corridor through there to Iran." That is the reason, not that Trump is weak or dumb. They didnt hold us hostage, they are their own entity and as history shows, Israel always strikes first in that region. They thought we were so weak and/or dumb that they needed our bombs to hit the facilities, how does that make any sense? And if we were so weak, why delay the attack? If we are so dumb why would they want our help? That doesnt make any sense. Wanting peace and less loss of life is not a weak or dumb stance to have. I thought that was something I agreed with the left on.

Of course he was aware, he probably had the attacked already planned, but gave their biggest ally a chance to negotiate peace and honored the deadline he gave. It not some conspiracy or well played thing he did. The attack was probably going to happen and Trump got wind and told him to hold off and let him try and get them to come to the table and avoid all of this. Just as likely a scenario as the one you gave. Iran didnt deal so the attack went ahead that was going to happen anyway. Trump probably used the missiles to help save Israeli and others lives, as they would have had to go in on the ground to take them facilities out and it would have cost everyone a lot. See I can do that game too, but the fact is we do not know what happened. But I get it, you have already decided orange man bad based on previous admittances on your part, so you predictably chose the path that fits that lens.

I am not celebrating anything. And this is taking what you seen happen and making up the reasons for it. You do not know any of this.

We are going back to the end of WW2 now? Or did you mean even the late 19th century? And I am sure you understand that the circumstances ebb and flow and not everything is at a max conflict state. For if not, then your entire premise is flawed and it is not Trumps fault for certain and it would date back to the original conflict point. If you agree that things ebb and flow, this particular curve started prior to Trumps term which I believe has been shown. So why didnt this happen under Joe? The answer is it started under him, so it did.

If you look at the timeline it would seem that things began escalating towards this inevitability prior to Trump. Notice the ramp up of actions in 2024 Also the last post in 2024: Oct 26: Israel openly attacks Iran for the first time, striking air defence systems and sites associated with its missile programme.

2020 Alleged Israeli attacks against Iran's nuclear program stepped up significantly after the disintegration of the 2015 nuclear deal meant to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons. July: A mysterious explosion tears apart a centrifuge production plant at Iran's Natanz nuclear enrichment facility. Iran blames the attack on Israel. November: A top Iranian military nuclear scientist, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, is killed by a remote-controlled machine gun while travelling in a car outside Tehran. A top Iranian security official accuses Israel of using electronic devices to remotely kill the scientist, who founded Iran's military nuclear programme in the 2000s. 2021 April 11: An attack targets Iran's underground nuclear facility in Natanz. Iran blames Israel, which does not claim responsibility, but Israeli media widely reports that the government orchestrated a cyberattack that caused a blackout at the facility. April 16: Iran begins enriching uranium up to 60, its highest purity ever and a technical step from weapons-grade levels of 90 per cent. 2022 June: Iran accuses Israel of poisoning two nuclear scientists in different cities within three days of each other, though the circumstances remain unclear. 2023 On October 7, 2023, Hamas militants from the Gaza Strip stormed into Israel, killing 1200 people and taking 250 hostage, beginning the most intense war between Israel and Hamas. Iran, which has armed Hamas, offers support to the militants. 2024 Feb 14: An Israeli sabotage attack led to multiple explosions on an Iranian natural gas pipeline running from Iran's western Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari province to cities on the Caspian Sea. April 1: An Israeli airstrike demolished Iran's Consulate in Damascus, Syria, killing 16 people, including two Iranian generals. April 14: Iran launched an unprecedented missile and drone attack on Israel, firing over 300 missiles and attack drones in response to the Israeli airstrike in Damascus. Working with a US-led international coalition, Israel intercepts much of the incoming fire. April 19: A suspected Israeli strike hit an air defence system near an airport in Isfahan, Iran. July 31: Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is assassinated by an apparent Israeli airstrike during a visit to Tehran. Israel had pledged to kill Haniyeh and other Hamas leaders over the Oct 7 attack. Sept 27: Israeli airstrike killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Formed by Iranian Revolutionary Guard members who went to Lebanon in 1982 to fight invading Israeli forces, Hezbollah was the first group that Iran backed and used as a way to export its brand of political Islam. Oct 1: Iran launched its second direct attack on Israel, though a US-led coalition and Israel shot down most of the missiles. Oct 16: Israel killed Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar in the Gaza Strip. Oct 26: Israel openly attacks Iran for the first time, striking air defence systems and sites associated with its missile programme. All during Biden's term. So to say Israel is only attacking Iran now because Trump is in power seems misplaced

This post has a lot of supposition to reach a conclusion you pre-determined imo

Is this the new "the Bills are moving to...." ?

Also I think Benny the Butcher should be on there

Murfreesboro is having one too

He does not want an honest debate when his whole premise is flawed in the well how does it impact me trope. Lots of things he says he is for dont impact him directly.

As you say you are someone that supports LGBTQ and abortion stuff, this certainly seems an interesting position to take

No love for Every Time I Die?