Logic

I called this on here the moment he was released by New England. I would like my cookie, please.

Ulofoshio may be an IR stash. As Joe Buscaglia pointed out, the Bills may try to stash him on IR for the year, as his rib injury mysteriously takes a very long time to heal... They've done this several times in recent years with rookies they want to keep but otherwise wouldn't have roster space for, including with ANOTHER 5th round pick in Justin Shorter. It's a roster loophole, and the Bills have been known to take advantage of it. Don't be surprised if you hear about a really bad hangnail soon for Ulo.

He's looked very good so far this preseason. He was very productive at Alabama, following up a 916 yard year with an 1142 and 8 TD year. No, he's not overly athletic, but he was productive at a big time program in a big time conference and was deemed worthy of being taken with a 2nd round draft pick. He then went through (and beat) leukemia, and is just now finally getting the chance to show what he can do in the pros. The depth at WR in Houston, though, means they might be willing to trade him, given that this is his last year as cheap labor. Me personally? If he could be had for, say, a 6th round pick that could conditionally become a 5th based on playing time, then yes, I'd be very interested. I think his chances of being a productive NFL player are as good or better than the chances of any 5th/6th round talent the Bills could draft in 2025.

Thanks man. I also think we agree more often than we don't. There are just a small handful of things we have differing opinions on, and we tend to both passionately defend our positions in lengthy diatribes to one another over the course of the offseason. But our discourse is always respectful, well reasoned, and hopefully at times expands both of our viewpoints on various issues. We never veer into personal insults or that kind of nonsense. In short, it's the exact type of spirited debate and discussion that make this forum fun. I always enjoy the back-and-forth with you. As for remaining flexible and open to new information and not having take-lock: ever since I went into full on depression/panic mode the night the Bills drafted Josh Allen because I was so sure he'd be an epic bust, I've realized: I don't know nothin about nothin. Best to remain pliable and not take anything too seriously.

He hasn't even earned anything close to top four reps, though, from what Broncos beat reporters are saying. It's something like: Sutton Patrick Reynolds Vele Mims Franklin Benjamin Allbright said Broncos fans should not be expecting Franklin to contribute this year whatsoever. Pretty damning assessment. I'll admit to being a "draft Franklin on day 2" guy. I'll also admit to being an idiot.

Given that the Chiefs added three trophies to their case over the past six years and the Bills added none, it's also sort of a Bills problem.

This is correct. HOWEVER... Sometimes, the process of getting into position for the player the GM wants causes him to miss out on a player ANOTHER team wants, and sometimes that player is at a position that was also a need for the GM that traded the pick away. For instance, part of the Bills' calculation for trading down and selecting Tre'Davious White was to stockpile draft picks to be able to acquire a quarterback the following year. But quarterback was ALSO a need for the Bills in 2017, and rather than maneuvering all around to stockpile picks for a future QB selection, they could've stood pat and DRAFTED Pat. Instead, in positioning themselves the way they wanted, they allowed an all time great player to go to another AFC team. Fast forward to this year, and Beane was once again simply positioning himself to get the player he wanted. But given that the Chiefs traded into the Bills' spot to take a player AT THE SAME POSITION, and given the sting some fans still feel from the LAST time we traded with KC on draft day, you can understand why some are a bit leery of the move. Yes, the GM's sole concern should be to do what's best for HIS team. But when a rival GM who seems to be better at roster building the past few years than our guy maneuvers into the Bills' spot and takes a player at the same position the Bills want, it should be understandable that it gives some of us a moment of pause.

Been lots of talk of the Eagles using Smith out of the slot a lot in Kellen Moore's offense this year. https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-fallout-immediate-takeaways-after-commanders-trade-wr-jahan-dotson-to-eagles Over the last three seasons, Smith has averaged 2.48 yards per route run from the slot compared to 1.65 when lined up out wide. Last season, Olamide Zaccheaus led the Eagles in wide receiver snaps from the slot (304), with Quez Watkins and Julio Jones also playing 100-plus snaps each. None of the other wide receivers in Philadelphia earned a receiving grade above 65.0 from the slot, while Smith graded at 77.7. The Eagles initially planned for DeVante Parker to be their third wide receiver, but he retired in May. Parker primarily played on the outside, which could have shifted DeVonta Smith to the slot. Now, it looks like Dotson will be the third receiver for Philadelphia, and he has spent 65% of his career snaps lined up out wide. While the Commanders experimented with him in the slot this preseason, Ainias Smith will likely lead the team in snaps from the slot this season. The Eagles hired Kellen Moore as their offensive coordinator this offseason, which brings an exciting prospect for DeVonta Smith. Moore has a history of success with top wide receivers in his offenses, which could bode well for Smith's continued development and production in Philadelphia. In Moore's offense, Dallas' CeeDee Lamb typically lined up as the X receiver in the Cowboys' two-receiver sets and in the slot in three-receiver sets, which is the best role for PPR scoring. Lamb finished as the WR19 in 2021 and WR5 in 2022. Last season, when Moore was with the Los Angeles Chargers, Keenan Allen typically played as the Z in base and then the slot in three-receiver sets, and he finished at WR8. Allen was the X in base at times last season and had the X role in base in past seasons. That role, which Smith hopefully takes on, seems like a clear path to a top-10 season.

Agreed. I was team "draft Xavier Worthy in round 1 and Javon Baker in round 4", thus putting talented guys in the pipeline at both X and Z. But here we are...

Two. Josh Allen and Kyle Allen (waivers, Pittsburgh) Mitch Trubisky to IR.

I agree that he is not strictly a slot. I think the Eagles will be employing him as the Z and using Devonta Smith as the slot in Kellen Moore's offense. Or, more likely, Smith and Dotson will be interchangeable as the Z and slot. Either way...I wouldn't mind someone whose skillset mirrors Samuel's. For one thing, Samuel has turf toe, and having someone that could replace his important role in the offense would be nice. For another, if Samuel DOES stay healthy, I don't see the downside in having two diverse, interchangeable Z/slot types in the offense instead of just one. Oh well. Moot point now. Bills stand pat...again.

Jeudy and Dotson were both guys I would've made moves for. Marvin Mims -- who was a 2nd round pick just last year and seems to have fallen somewhat out of favor with Sean Payton's staff -- would be another. I have the sneaking suspicion they won't be trading for a WR, but like you, I certainly wish they would.

Yeah he fell out of favor with the new coaching staff over the Summer. Some beat writers were swearing up and down that he was the locked in WR3, and he DID have 100% route participation with Jayden Daniels in preseason, spending a decent amount of time inside. Nevertheless, they clearly didn't think too highly of him to be willing to flip him to a division rival. This should open things up for Luke McCaffrey, their third round pick, to possibly claim the slot job.

Would you have paid the price the Eagles just paid? A 3rd and two 7ths for Dotson and a 5th? Personally, I feel as though it would've been a good trade for the Bills, given the extra 2nd they have in hand next year. One could argue that perhaps his skills would be redundant, with similarities to Samuel and with Shakir seemingly having the slot locked up. Still...He's a talented guy who could benefit from a change of scenery.

Yeah, Hardy has been a revelation. If there's one thing this scouting and coaching staff seem to know how to do, it's find incredibly capable corners on day three and in UDFA. Taron Johnson, Levi Wallace, Christian Benford, Alex Austin, Nick McCloud, and now Daequan Hady. Funnily enough, I saw Hardy's size and body type and thought to myself "this guy is just gonna be a returner". He didn't match the typical size and body type, and Taron Johnson is locked in as the nickel for the forseeable future. Then the kid actually started playing. He has been INCREDIBLY impressive both inside and outside, and is now -- as someone else said on this forum recently -- gonna be making this roster as a CORNER. His inside-outside versatility will make him a very valuable piece, and he has room to grow into a starting level player down the line. Another late round gem from Beane and co, once again capably coached by McDermott and his crew of DB whisperers. Speaking of DB whisperers, don't look now, but Jahleel Addae as DBs coach may have been one of the bigger underrated hires of the year for the Bills. He seems to be working wonders. We now appear to have a deep and versatile CB depth chart. Who'da thunk it?!

I thought Kaiir was a trade candidate prior to camp and the preseason, but I don't think he is any more. The coaching staff and front office have shown a lot of patience with him, and now it FINALLY seems to be paying off, as reports out of camp suggest he was routinely making plays and was rotating with Benford as a starter. It just doesn't make sense to me to invest three years of patience and development into a first round pick, and then when he's FINALLY starting to show something, to ship him off for a 5th or 6th round pick. I think the following corners all make the roster: Douglas Benford Elam Johnson Ingram Hardy If one of them DOESN'T make the final roster, I expect it to be Ingram. The other guys are all locks, IMO.

But only if Chan was coaching.

I knew I'd find you here talking about CJ Spiller. I just knew it.

If you remain silent and listen reallllly closely, you can hear it. Quiet. QUIET! Quieter still!!! Shhhhhh. LISTEN. Hear it? Yep. That's the sounds of our offense quietly getting better.

There are a few answers, all of them reasonable but incomplete. The truth is this: The board tends to be incredibly reactionary and have incredible recency bias. When the Bills just reeled off two impressive wins, people are on here talking about which hotel to book near the site of the Super Bowl. When the Bills just lost a last second game by 1 point to a great opponent, people on here are saying the coach and GM needs to be fired and we ought to get a look at the backup quarterback. This board is a steady stream of great, passionate, and intelligent conversation. But its all on a raft, floating in a sea of exaggeration, hyperbole, trolls, and duplicate threads. You can either climb on the raft and drift about, having a grand old time discussing how Spiller and Parrish were ahead of their time, or you can drown in the deep waters of stupidity. Your choice. As for why it's so negative right NOW? The last few seasons ended in rough fashion, and this was a rough offseason. Check back after we beat the Cardinals in week one, and we'll be comparing flight prices to Super Bowl city.

Can't watch at work atm. I've seen Peyton's clip, but who does Brady list and what does he say about Josh?