Logic

In before someone quotes a pseudo-scientific conspiracy theory or posts a sheep GIF.

“Who needs compensatory picks when you can just sign every o-lineman on the market and flip them for draft picks?” - Brandon Beane, probably.

One of — if not THE — only 1st set opening Eyes of the World ever, and it’s a great one. Bruce Hornsby really elevated that tune in those years.

Forget the coaching part of it. Marv Levy is a great man. Period. In his honor, and in the words of his usual celebratory song: ”Hooray for Marv Hooray at last Hooray for Marv he’s a horse’s ass!”

If anyone's not already aware, this is going on every day/night through the 9th at the link below the picture. Multiple Dead-adjacent sets from all sorts of different musicians, as well as stories being told by people close to the Dead scene. I watched today, and there was some great bluegrass Dead covers by the Travelin' McCourys, among others. https://www.dazebetween.com/

With regard to the first bolded sentence: The MLB has shown us already that fast and widespread outbreaks are quite possible, which could indeed ravage a roster. With regard to the second bolded sentence: The NBA is in a quarantined bubble. It is therefore much more likely to succeed than what the NFL is planning to attempt.

Well sure, if the season goes all the way through a championship game, it's better that they win than not win. But if we're talking about the level of satisfaction derived from a Lombardi won during a COVID-affected season vs the satisfaction derived from a Lombardi won during a normal season, it's not even close, right? It certainly isn't for me.

Agreed. And for me personally, a championship won during a year without fans in the stands and with multiple squads decimated by infection from a deadly pandemic wouldn't be very satisfying. I know others disagree, but that's how I feel. Would people really be happy about the Bills winning their first ever Lombardi during a season in which a deadly pandemic ravages league rosters, street free agents face off with vanilla playbooks, and no fans are there to celebrate? To whom does that sound like a worthwhile endeavor?

What I'm curious about is this: Let's suppose the NFL marches full speed ahead with the season even in the event of multiple infection outbreaks. They've cynically indicated that there are plenty of football players without jobs who will be happy to step in if NFL regulars start dropping like flies. So let's assume that happens, the NFL says "damn the torpedoes!" and just keeps playing games, with an eye on playing a full season because, ya know, money. How good and worthwhile will the product be if, for example, a team missing a bunch of key players due to COVID plays a team ALSO missing a bunch of key players due to COVID. And that's ON TOP of whoever will be missing due to regular football-related injuries. As an example, let's say it's the Bills (already without starting NT Star Lotulelei due to opt out) minus Josh Allen, Mitch Morse, Quinton Spain, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Taron Johnson, and Josh Norman vs the Chiefs (already without a starting guard and running back due to opt out) minus Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Mecole Hardman, Sammy Watkins, Juan Thornhill, Chris Jones, and, hell, Andy Reid. Is that a game you even want to watch? Are the final records of teams who lose this many players (and possibly coaches) to infection even reflective of the quality of those teams to begin with? Would a championship won during such a season even really be worth much? It's either going to be a very short season, forced to shut down because of too many outbreaks, or if it IS a full season, it's going to be a very watered down level of play. Either way, it's not good.

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying it. I feel this show has a certain -- Je ne sais quoi. A certain intangible quality to it. I think the band was happy to be in Paris after a week in Germany, which had freaked them out good and proper after they found a basement full of Nazi relics at one of the venues they played there. When the band was happy, the music was good.

Funny you should ask. In listening through this Europe '72 tour, I realize that they debuted the song on this tour. First time played was 4/17/72 in Denmark. It wasn't fully formed yet. Was missing the bridge and the proper intro. They played it a few more times in the coming shows, and by 5/10 in Amsterdam, they have it locked in just right. This is the version that wound up on the "Europe '72" album. Later on in the Dead's career, the song became a much more somber, reflective, jammed out kind of thing. It really evolved. Refer to the version from 9-3-77 in Englishtown, New Jersey, off of Dick's Picks #15. Very mournful tone. Excellent end-of-song jamming.

Jerry Garcia was born on August 1st, 1942 and died on August 9, 1995. The eight days from August 1st through August 9th are thus called “the days between” by Deadheads and are a great excuse to listen to and immerse ourselves in all things Grateful Dead (as if we needed an excuse). So, fellow Deadheads, what are YOU listening to at the moment? Personally, I’ve been immersed in the Europe ‘72 tour. All 22 shows from this tour are available in their full length, crystal clear glory on Spotify. I’ve been listening to each one in chronological order for some weeks now. Up to 5/13 in Lille, France as we speak. Favorites so far are 4/14 in Denmark, 5/7 in Wigan, England, and 5/3 in Paris, France. Listening to an entire tour like this has given me a new respect and level of appreciation for the nuances of the music. I feel like I’m getting my doctorate in Dead-ology. Certainly this tour has an undeniable magic. It’s Pigpen’s last stand, Keith is at his all time best and most creative, Phil and Bobby have mastered their instruments, Billy (the only one to refrain from any cocaine use this tour) sounds amazing, and Jerry’s tone and skill is golden. The single drummer and dual keyboards provide a unique and all-too-brief musical atyle that they’d never quite replicate again. The whole band is just HAPPY this tour, and it comes through in the playing. The Other Ones and Dark Stars from this tour are marvelous. If you don’t have Spotify, head over to Archive.org and listen to a soundboard of Paris 5/3. You won’t regret it. I don’t know that the band was ever tighter than they were on this tour. Pure magic. So, weirdos: what are YOU listening to right meow?

I still have yet to see anyone in this thread use actual facts or data to dispute what @BullBuchanan has been saying. You can say “well it’s not worth the time or effort” all you want, but that’s a cop out. You may not like or agree with what he’s saying, but at least he has provided facts and evidence to support his position, unlike literally everyone else in this thread. Can anyone provide facts that dispute the wanton use of tear gas (banned by the Geneva conventions, but somehow allowed on American soil) on American citizens? Can anyone provide evidence that disputes the fact that police are incorrectly and dangerously using “less lethal” munitions by aiming them directly at people’s Skulls and chests? Can anyone dispute the notion that police and federal troops have been attacking journalists and medics? Can anyone provide evidence showing that heavily militarized federal police forces have NOT been unlawfully attacking and/or detaining US citizens who — in many instances — have not committed any crimes? I welcome any such facts or evidence, but I already know none will be provided, because these occurrences are established facts. If you’re perfectly okay with everything I’ve just mentioned, then that pretty much tells me all I need to know about where you stand on the issues of civil liberties, fascism, and police brutality.

As I've said over and over on this forum, I think the NFL gets through four weeks of games at most before having to suspend or cancel the season. As such, my four week Diggs projection: 15 receptions for 309 yards and 2 TDs.

Ugh. I don't remember you being so miserly last time around. I can't remember the last thread you posted that didn't have a veneer of anger, defensiveness, or cynicism.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1286715180106371072 This dancing lady with flowers really had it comin’. That there are “thousands of” protestors being coached and paid, with the purpose of affecting the election. Do do you actually believe that?

You don’t actually believe this, do you?

If you don’t see how using a secret police force to quash dissent and to physically attack press and medics — not to mention threatening to delay an election — are fascist tactics, I can’t help you. Go read a history book.

Thanks for chiming in. Tally Dwight into the “totally cool with fascism” column.

So, just to be clear: you are in favor of unmarked federal forces putting protestors — and make no mistake, many of those being taken ARE peaceful protestors — into unmarked rental vans, without reading them their rights? You’re on board with that?

Just wanted to point out how hypocritical and absurd it is that the people terrified of the “Marxist” BLM aren’t even slightly concerned about the rise of actual, clear-as-day fascism in our country. Hey you! Ignore the unmarked federal police troops snatching protestors off the streets and tear-gassing Americans nightly and the president talking about delaying the election and refusing to accept the results of said election, and instead look over here at the scary, Marxist brown people! Racist fear-mongering and Red-scaring to frighten the populace into voting for “law and order” and to distract them from the dangerous actions of those in power that are ACTUALLY endangering our country. The playbook hasn’t changed in 70 years. Points for consistency, I guess? It would be funny if it wasn’t so transparent and vile.

I see you googled the word. Good for you. Pointing out that anti-fascists have been guilty of 0 murders while the people they oppose have been guilty of 329 seems quite on-topic to me, but I respect you taking the time to learn new things.

People who dislike Antifa -- which, again, doesn't exist in the way they think it does -- are upset because they perceive that this big, scary boogeyman "suppresses free speech" (even though they only try to suppress HATE speech that incites violence) and destroy property. Meanwhile, they don't give one iota of a damn about actual murders and acts of terror committed on American soil by right wing extremists. They don't say a peep about that.They also apparently don't care about the clear-as-day rise of fascist practices -- like unmarked police forces throwing protestors into unmarked vehicles and detaining them indefinitely without reading them their rights. I mean...when you sympathize with fascism and dislike ANTI-fascism, well...

Like I said above: Since we've already touched on CHAZ, which do you want to talk about next? Charlottesville? The Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooting? The October 2018 Mail-bomb attempts? The Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting?If you're truly concerned about terrorism on American soil, I suggest you write your local congressperson about the rise of extreme right-wing domestic terrorism in the United States over the past decade.https://www.wired.com/story/boogaloo-movement-protests/ Yet more whataboutism. Shocking.

Typical whataboutism. What a surprise!