Logic

There is a certain charm and uniqueness to the architecture in blue collar, rust belt type cities like Detroit and Buffalo. In fact, one of the most underrated aspects of the city of Buffalo (and nearby Rochester) is its architecture. You don't necessarily realize it growing up. You don't sense that it's unique, and you take it for granted. But then, leaving western new york and going around the rest of the country, it dawns on you: Huh, some of that architecture from the city I grew up in is actually pretty special!

It's nothing more than Patty's annual melodramatic exaggerated/fake limp. Seems like it happens late in the season every year. Analysts breathlessly speculate on "what it means for the Chiefs" and gets the 24-hour sports news cycle in a tizzy, then lo and behold, he plays the very next week and looks just fine. Maybe limp-hops after a touchdown pass or two. Lather, rinse, repeat. Wake me when they amputate something.

I can agree with that. Overall, the only defense I believe can stop Josh Allen in his quest for a championship this year is Sean McDermott's defense. I agree with what you say: For being a "defensive head coach", the one constant theme in the playoffs every year under McDermott has been the failures of his defenses. Every. Single. Year. The notion of pairing an elite QB with a ferocious defense SHOULD put you in realistic championship contention ever year. It did with Tom Brady, and it's doing so now with Mahomes and the Chiefs. Only, for whatever reason, McDermott's consistently ferocious regular season defenses (top 5 or top 10 almost every year he's been here) turn into paper tigers in the playoffs. Until that changes, the Bills won't win a title. And if it doesn't change this year, they'll again waste an All-World season from the best QB on the planet.

Yeah I think that when the schedule comes out each year, Bills fans circle the road trips they think would be fun to take. Detroit probably didn't make the cut for most. If you're a Buffalonian, it's like "why go to Detroit, when we have a perfectly good Detroit at home?"

I understand where you're coming from, but I still think it's off base with regard to Sunday, and to much of this season. There have been numerous instances this season where the defense set the offense up with a short field. They just came off a string of how many games in a row where the defense forced at least one turnover? Our defense held the Jaguars, Dolphins, Seahawks, Titans, and 49ers to 10 points a piece. Do they get credit for those wins? What about the Chiefs game? The Bills offense scored 30, yes, but the defense held the Chiefs to three scores. Taking the example of Sunday's game, it could just easily be argued that if Benford doesn't knock the ball out of St Brown's hands, we lose. Or if Ed Oliver doesn't have 9 QB pressures, we lose. I recognize that recently, the Bills defense has been struggling. But it hasn't been struggling all season. Prior to the Rams game, this Bills team has been playing good complementary football for most of the season. I think that when a player is as incredible as Josh Allen is, it necessarily always looks like the team wins almost solely because of him. And that's not entirely wrong. It was that way with Peyton Manning's Colts, too. They certainly weren't a 12-wins-a-year team with Jim Sorgi under center.

The intense passion and strong opinions around uniform combos always make me laugh. You could be the most macho, menacing, big tough bro-dude football fan with warrior facepaint, spiked shoulder pads, and a team custom Harley Davidson... ...but the second team uniform combos are discussed, you become Law Roach (look it up). "Well...the pants are nice, but the blouse is a little tacky. I prefer blue!" Gets me every time 😂

I just discovered this thread and haven't read through 19 pages of it, but... The original statement is inaccurate. I'm not really sure what game the OP was watching. Who kept Josh Allen upright? Who caught his passes? Who (besides josh) ran the ball to the tune of over 100 yards and two touchdowns? Who made fingertip grabs on two slightly overthrown balls at key moments? Who blocked for him on his QB keepers? Who called the masterful gameplan that helped him succeed? Who punched the ball out of Amon-Ra's hands? Who forced two 1st quarter three-and-outs, allowing the Bills to build a lead and make the Lions play catch-up all game? I have complained many times in the past about Josh always having to put on the cape for the Bills to have a chance to win. I understand the sentiment. Beating the 12-1 Lions in their house, though, was a team effort. It was NOT just Josh. And speaking about this season in general, one of the main reasons Josh is having such a great year to begin with is because Joe Brady is doing an amazing job as OC. Furthermore, a higher percentage of the Bills passing yardage comes via YAC this year than it ever has in any previous year. He arguably has more help via scheme than he ever has before. Josh is getting help this year. He DEFINITELY got help Sunday. You don't beat the 12-1 Lions with a one-man show. C'mon, man!

Yeah there's gotta be zero chance that they're debuting these very "throwback Pats" looking jerseys AGAINST the Pats, right? Hilarious.

Just four skill players to one side of the field, one to the other. Creates advantageous spacing for the offense and, as the video points out, sometimes puts the defense in a bind or limits what they can do. I, too, would be intrigued to know what teams are using it the most, and the most effectively, since Orlovsky mentioned that it was on the rise this season.

It was a bad call not to run QB sneak there. You're right. I'd have run it, and then if it failed to score, I'd have hurried to the line and done it again. Two tush pushes in a row from the 1 was almost certain to score. Bad call by Brady. HOWEVER.... That was arguably the only bad call in an otherwise elite game for Joe Brady. The variety of runs that they used, the sequencing and layering of the passing game, the way they had the Lions defense on its heels all game long. All in all, it was a masterpiece of offensive gameplanning and playcalling. And oh, by the way, they scored 48 points against a top 10 scoring defense on the road, in front of a fired up home crowd, and have achieved the rare feat of scoring 30+ points for eight games in a row. So yeah, you're right, it was a dumb playcall. But if your major reaction after the game is to point out the one dumb playcall rather than the 4 quarters of brilliant playcalling, I don't know what to tell ya. No one's perfect. But Brady was about as close to it as an NFL OC can reasonably get yesterday, and one bad playcall doesn't change the fact that he deserves kudos for the job he's doing.

The Thigh Doctor guy on Twitter (who I've since come to understand is not universally trusted) believes its an AC Joint sprain in Allen's right (throwing) shoulder. Again, probably best to believe the words straight out of Allen's mouth and the fact that there is no other chatter anywhere about Allen's right shoulder being injured over this random "doctor" on Twitter. Nevertheless, just reporting what I read. Don't shoot the messenger.

The Buffalo Bills are the only team in the league for whom the FANS are arguably the most famous, well known aspect of the team. Sure, you can say that's because they haven't won any championships in the Super Bowl era, but nevertheless, the fact remains. Ask anyone, whether they're knowledgeable about football or not, what they think of when it comes to the Buffalo Bills, and most are gonna say "I know their fans are crazy". Or they'll mention "Bills Mafia" or tables being broken or the tailgating. Bills fans are next level passionate DESPITE a history of heartbreak and no championships. Steelers and, nowadays, Chiefs fans cannot say the same. Packers fans cannot say the same. I'll grant you that Lions' fans loyalty matches our own, but they lack the gameday atmosphere Buffalo has. The combination of fan passion (particularly despite a losing history), loyalty, gameday tailgating and stadium experience, and things unique to Bills fans ("Bills mafia", tailgate rituals, the tables, charity donations), how well they travel to other stadiums, make them -- in my admittedly biased opinion -- the best fans in football.

Mack Hollins' under-the-radar value to the Bills offense, summed up in a short clip of just one play:

People acting like there won't be serious wind mitigation in the new stadium and like the field won't be heated. Also, to reiterate: in the past three seasons, the Bills are 23-3 at home. TWENTY-THREE AND THREE. The Bills ALREADY have an elite home field advantage!

Agreed. Historic. Not unreasonable to argue that they're the best offense in team history. I remain worried about a frigid and snowy Buffalo playoff game neutralizing their passing game advantage. I know, I know: the 49ers game. Still, I can't shake the visions of Isiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt or Derick Henry and Lamar Jackson running wild, our pass rushers failing to impact Mahomes or Jackson whatsoever due to bad footing in winter weather a la the Bengals game, and Josh Allen lasers bouncing off of frozen Bills WRs' fingers. Clearly, I have a bad case of LBFT: Lifelong Bills Fan Trauma.

Damn. I hate late kickoffs. I really wanted it to be a 10am deal.

Indeed. The Bills' historic offensive production this season makes me think of Beane's offseason quote: "let's not forget we can throw to tight ends and running backs, too. Last I checked, it's not just receivers that can catch passes". I laughed at the quote as being silly at the time, but now the joke's on me. All three running backs and both tight ends contribute to the passing game in a big way. But as far as pure wide receiver production and viability, Kirby is right: just average. Shakir is a great security blanket for Josh. Cooper is more or less a low end WR1 at this point in his career. Coleman has shown promise and may eventually turn into a viable WR1. All in all, the pass catching corps as a whole (taking into account all positions) has been good, but the wide receivers are essentially who we thought they were.

It's really hard to compare positions and eras. OJ had incredible production even though there was NOTHING around him and opposing defenses knew it was coming. Bruce Smith is the all-time NFL leader in sacks despite playing primarily as a 3-4 DE for much of his career. Josh is doing unprecedented things at QB, but in an era where QBs are very protected and offensive production is very much promoted/encouraged by the NFL. All things considered, I'm going with Josh. I think he'll go down as the best dual threat QB in NFL history and, when it's all said and done, one of the top ten greatest quarterbacks that's ever played the game of football. To me, given the importance of the quarterback position and the fact that Josh is likely to wind up the Bills franchise's all-time leader in both touchdown passes AND touchdown runs, I'm voting Josh.

So long as it remains healthy, the offense appears poised to handle playoff football. The defense -- as it always seems to be in the playoffs under Sean McDermott -- is the issue. We just saw them give up 40+ points in back-to-back weeks. And yes, I understand the circumstances of injuries and going against great offenses. Nevertheless... Can the defensive line consistently generate pressure? Can Matt Milano round back into his pre-injury form? Can our starting safeties and corners stay on the field? On top of that, the only other thing I could see being an issue is bad, snowy weather, which could neutralize the playing field and somewhat neuter the Bills offense (49ers game notwithstanding).

OJ and Bruce would be the only two previous ones in Bills history, I think. Josh, OJ, Bruce, and Kelly is probably your Bills Mt Rushmore, though I'd understand the argument for Thurman over Kelly.

Unstoppable at home? You mean like...

This is insane