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  1. 1. You can say "Antifa Tyler" all you want, but that doesn't make it true. I know 6th grade name calling is your favorite president's forte, but that doesn't mean its a viable strategy. 2. The fact that you're totally on board with all of the stuff shown in that Tweet kind of says it all. To recap: BEFORE anyone had been apprehended, before any killer or any motivation was proven one way or the other, the entire right wing establishment mobilized with bloodthirsty tweets, quotes, and interviews talking about declaring war on the entire left. There are tweets up there talking about rounding up leftists, bombing cities, ALL OUT WAR, etc....and no one had yet been apprehended. They IMMEDIATELY decided to use Kirk's murder as an opportunity to whip up panic and stoke the flames of divisiveness, to the extent that many are/were encouraging actual violent retribution against leftists. If you support THAT, well...it tells me all I need to know about you. And it's not the least bit surprising. Party of law and order, my ass.
  2. Totally cool, totally sane de-escalation and normal behavior from the right displayed below. Most of this came before anyone was even apprehended, mind you. Talk about “dangerous and violent rhetoric”!
  3. I wonder what suddenly compelled Fuentes to say this NOW. Huh.
  4. You're being willfully and repeatedly obtuse, not to mention changing your original question to me. By all means, go on pretending that only the left takes glee in political violence, ignoring all evidence to the contrary (some of which I provided), and painting with an absurdly large brush by lumping all leftists in together as "gleefully celebrating" Kirk's death, when that is very clearly far from the truth. If you can't be intellectually honest, then I have no interest in conversing with you.
  5. I posted a thread from Adam Cochran a while back that went into it. Because one of his 10 slides was inaccurate (the voter registration one), the rest was dismissed out of hand. In short, they both appear to be just as likely (and, I'd argue, more so) to be related to well known Groyper/4chan tropes and memes than to any kind of leftist ideology.
  6. As if what I posted isn't DIRECTLY relevant to the point you're trying to make. Sure seems like the left isn't "exclusively" gleeful at cold blooded murder when the sitting republican president's son is joking about the attempted murder of Paul Pelosi on Twitter. Remind me, is Donald Trump Jr a leftist?
  7. Sure. The right would never make light of political violence.
  8. It matters only insofar as there are a ton of republican politicians pinning this on the radical left, including our president. If we all agree that "it's gotta stop", and the "it" in question is political violence, then the president going on TV and blaming "the radical left" for Kirk's shooting BEFORE ANYONE WAS EVEN APPREHENDED" doesn't seem like the best move, does it? It doesn't scream "de-escalation and lowering tensions", does it? So I agree that a sick person is a sick person regardless of his political or ideological affiliation. But if repbulicans are gonna go on TV and make frothy-mouthed claims about the evil left, then well...yes, it does seem to be important to ascertain whether that's even true.
  9. The cope on THE LEFT is insane? When mounting evidence seems to indicate that he was part of an extremist far RIGHT movement? Sure, Jan.
  10. Coming from someone who just posted from Libs of TikTok. Get real, man. Nothing I could possibly post -- including a question asked of a large language model belonging to Elon Musk himself -- will dissuade you of what you've already decided: that the big, bad, radical left is to blame. Groypers can come right out and say "this guy looks like one of ours", and we can see pictures of the shooter himself dressing up as a Groyper meme for Halloween, and you'll still dismiss it and blame democrats. Your mind is made up. That's fine. To each their own.
  11. Anything you must do to ignore the reality that this language is also spoken by far right extremists, who are also dangerous and capable of violence.
  12. The fact that the shooter apparently considered himself a member of a far right extremist group who openly expressed their disdain for Charlie Kirk and encouraged their followers to go to his events to confront and discredit him for not being nationalist and conservative enough, to the extent that this campaign become known as "The Groyper Wars" seems.....relevant, no? But ya know...any chance to blame the democrats I guess.
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