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This is an excerpt from a longer interview where she talks about Josh and the proposal. Would also like to point out that I like the color choice for her outfit. But... Had to share this 😂😂😂
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Defensive Tackle: Is it the Players or the System?
Logic replied to Rubes's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think this is a really valid question. The two biggest examples I'd point to that suggest there may be something to it are Tim Settle and Poona Ford. Both played CONSIDERABLY better for their post-Bills teams. Put simply (because I am no defensive line guru), I can't help but feel that our defensive line needs its Aaron Kromer.- 91 replies
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There is absolutely no way you could know that. Total projection.
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Absolutely. As a matter of fact, it's giving me PTSD flashbacks to Kaiir Elam. Drafting a supremely physically talented defensive back, asking him to do things that his college tape showed were not his strengths, and trusting that you can just coach him into it. Sometimes, of course, that works out. But sometimes, as we saw with Elam, it does not. Here's hoping Bishop makes big strides in year two. I remember Bills media talking heads and draft analysts discussing this very question, and the thought being that DeJean would be a safety in Buffalo's defensive scheme. The fact that he played very capably at nickel corner -- a position which requires quick processing, tackling ability, physicality, and coverage ability -- suggests that there's a reasonable chance at success as a safety. I can't honestly say I know for sure, though.
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I would argue that the Bills played Bishop because he was a high draft pick so they felt compelled to do so. And that it's genuinely hard for me to believe that they would've gotten worse production from Kareem Jackson. Meanwhile, we KNOW the kind of production they got from Kaiir Elam at CB2 in the biggest game of the season. It comes down to this: You're advocating for and defending strictly drafting for need rather than entertaining the idea of drafting the best player available. That's fine. I disagree. I think it's a bad strategy and one that has cost the Bills dearly in recent drafts. Good day.
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To answer your question directly, lets look at the last game of our season against the Chiefs for the right to go to the Super Bowl: Keon Coleman had 1 catch for 12 yards. Cole Bishop did nothing of consequence. You're telling me their respective production couldn't have been achieved by others? As to the wide receiver question: in his second through sixth games after being cut by Buffalo, Marquez Valdes-Scantling posted the following stat lines: 3 catches for 109 yards and 2 TDs 2 catches for 87 yards and 1 TD 2 catches for 36 yards and 1 TD 4 catches for 51 yards 2 catches for 64 yards As to the safety question, the Bills had veterans Kareem Jackson and Micah Hyde on the practice squad for the KC game. They also had recent 1st rounder Lewis Cine. There's more than one way to skin a cat. I maintain that drafting BPA instead of leaving yourself with crying needs at certain positions and being forced to draft those positions is the better draft strategy.
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He was PFF's 8th ranked prospect. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-board-big-board He was Scouts Inc's 19th ranked prospect. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/story/_/id/39854410/2024-nfl-draft-rankings-top-prospects-scouts-inc He was Joel Klatt's (of Fox Sports) 24th ranked prospect. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/story/_/id/39854410/2024-nfl-draft-rankings-top-prospects-scouts-inc He was Daniel Jeremiah's 25th ranked prospect. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/story/_/id/39854410/2024-nfl-draft-rankings-top-prospects-scouts-inc It's not a "hindsight 20/20" situation. DeJean was touted by nearly everyone of consequence as solidly a mid to late 1st round pick. Furthermore, as I pointed out in my thread, the fact that DeJean WASN'T considered a realistic draft candidate for Buffalo because they were "set at cornerback" is EXACTLY the problem. Drafting BPA over need would dictate that DeJean WOULD have been a viable candidate there. You draft good players over "need" players, and before long, you look pretty smart. Case in point: Benford got hurt and Kaiir Elam flopped and floundered in the biggest game of the year, repeatedly being picked on by Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. If only the Bills had had a more talented corner waiting in the wings! And wouldn't you know it? Fast forward to this year, and the Bills are likely going to be in the market for a viable starting corner. But instead of having one waiting in the wings, they'll have corner among their obvious NEED positions, and may end up having to draft one when he isn't the BPA solely because the need is so crying. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Rather than re-litigate the "Coleman over Worthy" thing, which has been discussed to death... I will instead point out that for all of Beane's talk about drafting BPA and not being a prisoner to need, his track record shows that he ABSOLUTELY drafts for need in the first and second round most years, and 2024 was no exception. I think every draftnik and their brother had Cooper DeJean rated ahead of Keon Coleman, but WR was the bigger need, so Coleman was the pick. In retrospect, Cooper DeJean and Xavier Worthy likely would both have been superior picks. Each of them scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl for their team as rookies, while Keon Coleman (who, yes, may still wind up being a productive role player or even a WR2/3) was near the bottom of the league in separation created. The book on this draft won't be written for a couple more years, but early returns are not promising. Brandon Beane needs to put his money where his mouth is and stop drafting for need, because he has left some great talent on the table by not truly drafting BPA. While I agree that it's too soon to tell, it's tough to hear and agree with "it's harder to make an instant impact on a good team" when Cooper DeJean and Xavier Worthy scored three touchdowns between them in the Super Bowl a couple Sundays ago.
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Thanks for the link and for your summary. I guess what's frustrating to me, based on what you're saying, is that an Eagles team that plays the Chiefs far less often than we do was able to figure out the strategy you outlined: don't let the receivers win early, contain rush Mahomes all day, don't let him out of the pocket, force the receivers -- if they're going to win at all -- to win later in the route. The thing is, many sharp fans could've told you this is the plan to beat the Chiefs as currently constructed. So why did it seem like this was NOT the plan the Bills employed this year? I don't buy lack of adequate personnel as an excuse. Sure, the Eagles' defensive personnel may be superior, but it's not SO vastly superior that the Bills couldn't try to replicate that Eagles' gameplan. So why didn't they? The coverage was generally soft. Sure, we lacked Benford for much of the game, and sure, maybe we feared that our safeties would get beat deep. Nevertheless, it didn't seem like the Bills were trying to limit and bother the Chiefs receivers early in their routes. More egregiously, the Bills definitely did NOT prioritize contain rushing Mahomes. Rousseau broke contain MULTIPLE times in the AFCCG. It stood out on screen it was so bad. So that's what puzzles me. How is it that Sean McDermott and Bobby Babich -- neither one a fool or a slouch -- couldn't seem to figure out that Eagles defensive gameplan and employ it, considering they face the Chiefs every single season, sometimes twice a year? It's maddening.
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How about teams with very good to elite QB play who don't even MAKE the playoffs? Herbert's Chargers have been subpar until this season and have missed the playoffs several times. Burrow's Bengals missed the playoffs entirely this year. Do we get to count those?
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Great post. Thanks. People tend to think that whatever replacement we get would definitely be an upgrade. And while of course it's possible they would be, it's also very possible they would be a DOWNgrade. After all, winning one's division five years in a row is quite an accomplishment (first time it's happened in Bills history), as is making it to the conference championship game. People are quick to say "well, McDermott has Josh Allen, so of COURSE he's successful", but that simply ignores and minimizes the tons of head coaches who have very good QBs and still don't routinely post double digit wins and claim division crowns. If these things are so automatic just by virtue of having quality QB play, why haven't the Chargers been very good under Justin Herbert? Why don't the Bengals consistently post double digit wins and win division titles like we do? I believe that winning consistently and making the playoffs year after year is harder than people think. And I believe that it's nowhere NEAR the foregone conclusion some seem to think it is that anyone replacing McDermott would constitute an improvement. The Bills, while undergoing significant roster turnover, breaking in two new coordinators, and posting a TON of a dead cap, improved from last year and made the AFC Championship game for the first time since 2020. I'm not sure what it is about that year-to-year improvement and being an eyelash away from a Super Bowl -- WHILE getting younger and shedding veterans and eating a bunch of dead cap, no less -- that makes people so eager to move on from the head coach and so sure that anyone that replaces him will be an improvement.
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Meanwhile, multiple other teams around the league have ALSO changed coordinators, players, head coaches, and GMs, and they're all MORE than a touchdown away.
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I don't necessarily disagree with some of what you say here. On the other hand, your post should have the following asterisks, IMO: *The Bills have the most wins in the NFL since 2020 *The Bills have the best point differential in the NFL since 2020 *The Bills have won the AFC East a franchise record five times in a row *If not for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, there's a very good chance the Bills would have appeared in at least one Super Bowl *The Bills were a touchdown away from being in the Super Bowl THIS year At the end of the day, none of what I just listed resulted in the Bills hoisting a Lombardi, and that's obviously the ultimate goal. But if you're going to make the points you just made about "staleness" and "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic", it seems only fair to mention that the Bills have been one of the most consistently excellent franchises in the NFL the past five years. They consistently win their division, consistently rank at the top of point differential and wins league wide, and consistently make the playoffs. A Super Bowl win is the ONLY thing they haven't done yet. Seems like quite an accomplished and successful franchise to be likening to the Titanic.
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Deebo Samuel Granted Permission to Seek Trade
Logic replied to PauleeeWalnuts's topic in The Stadium Wall
To be honest, I'd love for the Bills to stop cycling through veterans and draft a young, explosive guy of their own. Unfortunately, with the needs at DL, safety, and CB, I doubt they're planning to invest a high pick in a WR this offseason. Still, of the veteran receiving options, I'd rather re-sign (a hopefully healed up) Amari Cooper -- who we already know is a locker room fit -- than Deebo. -
Deebo Samuel Granted Permission to Seek Trade
Logic replied to PauleeeWalnuts's topic in The Stadium Wall
The Bills need an explosive outside receiver that can beat man coverage, win deep, and open things up for the middle-of-the-field guys. Deebo is not that guy. At this point in his career, he's more of a gimmick player than a complete WR1. He's Curtis Samuel with better blocking and strength. 2021 was awesome! But since then? Woof. It's a no for me, dawg.