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Totally agree. As you say: fortunately for Bills fans, owners don't generally change THEMSELVES out. It's also the reason the Jets don't concern me. Woody Johnson is an AWFUL owner. The Pats -- with Robert Kraft, Eliot Wolf, and Mike Vrabel (not to mention Drake Maye) -- are far and away the closest to becoming contenders for AFC East supremacy.

Nothing in Dolphins land will change until Chris Grier and Mike McDaniel are gone. When a GM so consistently fails to adequately correct serious and recurring issues such as abhorrent offensive line play and rotting team culture, year after year, he's gotta go. When a team's culture becomes as toxic and rotten as the Dolphins' culture appears to be, it's time for the head coach to go as well. Everything starts at the top. The GM and the head coach who have resided over the team while it has descended to its current level of dysfunction have to be let go, or nothing will change. As long as Grier and McDaniel are in place, I will not fear the Dolphins, and neither will the rest of the NFL. Wake me when they have a GM, HC, or QB worth a darn.

It comes down to this: Do you believe that the Bills' problem are deep and systemic, and no amount of personnel turnover will fix them? - or - Do you believe that the Bills' formula is good enough to get them to the doorstep of the Super Bowl every year, and they keep being just a play or two away from getting there? If you believe the former, then you probably agree with this article. If you believe the latter, then you probably don't agree with the article. If you believe the former, you likely want some combination of Beane and McDermott gone, and you want a shiny new head coach and/or GM. If you believe the latter, you just keep trying to add talent and "keep trying to kick the door down", as one NFL executive put it to Beane last year. Which side are you on? That's the big question.

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Like I said in the other PFF thread: PFF's analytics: Good. PFF's grades, rankings, lists, and other editorial/opinion pieces: Bad. They need to do a better job separating the two, because the credibility of the former unfortunately lends undue credence to the opinions spouted by the latter.

I mean...if this is something you're legitimately hearing, and from a source that you deem trustworthy...you really ought to say more 😅

Yep. Their analytics themselves are often useful and informative (though not infallible) tools. I'm glad they exist. Their editorial side, with its rankings and gradings and opinion pieces, are typically not good at all. And unfortunately, they don't do a good enough job keeping the raw analytics side and the editorial/opinion sides separate, leading some to lend undue credence to the editorial/opinion side.

I haven't read through the 12 pages of this thread. I just stopped in to say that while McDermott has his share of flaws, with playoff performance being chief among them... Any insinuation that he's not one of the 10 best coaches in the NFL is simply incorrect. It's an incorrect opinion. Yes, the question is subjective. But to suggest that the guy with the second best win percentage in the NFL since 2020 and six straight playoff trips isn't at least the 10th best coach in the league is simply unreasonable. Where is he between 2nd and 10th? That's a much more interesting and reasonable question. But if you don't think he ranks at least 10th, you're wrong. Period. That is all.

Tua. I simply don't believe that any team with Tua at QB is ever winning a championship. Nothing in his late season or clutch time play history suggests to me that he could go toe-to-toe with the real QB heavyweights or carry his team to a championship. I can more easily envision every QB on that list (including Geno Smith) winning a championship than I can Tua. I'm not trying to be biased or be a jerk because he plays in our division. I just think he's the classic "just good enough to break your heart year after year" guy. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick but with less turnovers and less sense of humor.

Bills fans tend to obsess over bottom-of-roster longshots at wide receiver year after year after year. That being the case, smart money is on Kaden Prather, Tyrell Shavers, and Laviska Shenault to become 2025 camp darlings.

Yeah and I'm seeking a night with Sydney Sweeney. Doesn't mean either is gonna happen.

There are some players from our favorite teams that we grow up watching that, to us, seem like superheroes and the best to ever do it. We waaaay overrate their ability and love them as players, because in our youth and our lack of watching teams other than our favorite ones, they just seem like the best to us. Metzelaars was one of those dudes for me. I mean...he played 16 years in the NFL, so he was certainly a good player. But if you asked 50 random NFL fans or historians who their favorite 80s and 90s TEs were, I doubt you'd get a lot of Metzelaars answers. To childhood me, he was a total beast. At 6'7" and 254 lbs, the dude just looked like a machine out there. As a kid, I just assumed ALL tight ends were giant, hulking stork people who looked like they could beat up your dad. Loved that dude.

Four things stand out: - The lack of shotgun. Amazing how much the game has changed on offense. - The way that the game has changed on 4th downs. Any kind of 4th down back then -- even a yard or less -- was automatically a kick situation. This has changed so much in the last few years. - Kelly had such a unique throwing motion. Instantly recognizable to anyone who grew up watching the Bills. - Would've been a baaaad day to be going against Andre Reed in fantasy football

Have been thinking about Brian today and reading about his life. Many don't know, he suffered from lifelong auditory hallucinations. He was eventually diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder and bipolar disorder. He suffered abuse at the hands of his father and later at the hands of his therapist, survived years of drug addiction and mental illness, and on-and-off estrangement from his former bandmates. Through all of it, he remained a singular genius. One need only read what OTHER musical geniuses (McCartney, Lennon, Dylan, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Lou Reed, Roger Waters, Pete Townshend, Paul Simon, and on and on) have to say about him on his website to realize how truly brilliant he was. Pet Sounds was not only ahead of ITS time, it's probably also ahead of OUR time. It is surely one of the greatest -- if not THE greatest -- pop albums ever recorded. I'll always listen to songs like "In My Room" and "I Guess I just Wasn't Made for These Times" with great appreciation and wonderment and fondness in my heart for Brian. What an ear, what a mind, what a talent.