Fetou
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Just now, joesixpack said:
And in three years will be washed out of the league. If there’s ever anything you can be assured of, that’s it.
Somebody just traded the 1st pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor and he is starting again next season. Even if Jackson's progression is unfavorable, he projects pretty easily to be a much better prospect than Taylor.
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Just now, Real McCoy said:
For the record I'm Rosen or Mayfield guy. That does not appear to happening so why not have a sane conversation about next options? Everyone get so pissy or heated over any conversation about the QB position it's crazy.
I'm with you on Rosen. I would take Jackson over Mayfield.
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4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
I can’t believe anyone seriously believes this guy is nfl capable. Hey, whatever floats your boat.
Brandon Beane:
"He is a special athlete. He really is. I understand why people say (he should switch to wide receiver) because they’ve seen guys convert that are special athletes. I still think he’s going to get a chance to prove that he can play quarterback. I think he’s earned that right. He won the Heisman doing that. I think he’s going to get every chance to prove that before he ever looks at a position change. I refer to Cam (Newton) because it’s so recent. Those were the things a lot of people said about Cam. ‘It’s a simple offense, he can’t learn it, everything he’s done has been run first, pass second.’ Look at what Cam has done in this league. He’s done a lot of good things. You have to give Lamar Jackson that due diligence to prove what he can do mentally, physically, all of those things. What his intangibles are. I haven’t gotten to meet the young man yet. I’ve heard great things about him and I’m looking forward to getting to know him between now and the draft.”
I'm sure he will be fully considered and given a fair shake.
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2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
If I’m ok using it for ALL QBs, it’s not a contrivance. If someone is saying what he’s saying, it is.
I'm sure you would love if your workplace performance was judged by things that were out of your control.
WR drop % by QB. If your eyes get tired going down the list, Jackson is #53.
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2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
Lol. Lies, damned lies and made up statistics.
how is it that completion percentage is a valid yardstick except for Lamar?
So you think that the number is better with spikes and drops in it? That's a pretty indefensible position to defend your contrivances. I think that's rather obvious here.
The NBA equivalent would be looking at field goal % without context for the type of shot being taken. Shaq would be a better shooter than Steph Curry under that view.
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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:
Completion percentage includes all those things for all qbs, and almost all of them have higher completion percentages than Lamar Jackson.
Which makes raw completion percentage a muddy stat with lurking variables outside of the QB's control and skillset. There exists an adjusted completion percentage that takes out the impact of WR drops and spikes. Jackson has a better % than Darnold.
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2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
Other than the assassination mrs Lincoln, how was the show?
So what is the argument in this wisecrack? Wide receiver drops and play type (such as a spike) doesn't contribute to completion percentage?
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1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
Maybe you should have written this thread. As it stands, it comes off like the philosophy of trading up would make them nuts.
I don't start threads. There are plenty of other BBMB converts that have been doing so for a very long time and have had so long to hone their skills. I didn't need to make threads there either!
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3 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
I know.
But apparently the OP missed since he is writing saying the GM and Head Coach are not crazy and wouldn't trade up in the draft.
*Hint*
They already did.
This is intentionally misleading though. The OP is arguing that they won't give up a bunch of picks to get one pick. As in, he is saying it would be crazy to consolidate multiple top 60 picks into one pick. The Glenn trade up was converting a veteran player into what is essentially extra draft pick position. One move is in line with team building through the draft (and in the same vein as trading Watkins and Darby), and the other move would shift a good portion of the team building into future free agency.
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Just now, Chuck Wagon said:
We've been living with the best QB available for the past 20 years. Hasn't worked once.
They've only drafted a QB with a 1st round pick twice if I'm not mistaken?
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1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
So they already traded up?
Yes, but to gain draft pick capital, not to spend it. Essentially Cordy Glenn for a mid 2nd rounder
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Just now, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
Question.
How did they go from 21 & 22 to 12 & 22
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They traded Cordy Glenn and swapped a 5th for a 6th.
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I think Beane is being somewhat honest when he says they aren't/weren't planning to move up. They seem to have a value system that is formed through conversations between front office personnel, and they will stick to that value system over any overarching plan to take one route or another. i.e, they will trade up only if they feel that they are getting better value than what they are giving up. They have a ton of options as to how to handle this.
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16 minutes ago, the skycap said:
They weren't half the passers. Jackson threw for 9000 yards in 2.5 seasons!! Jackson was Louisville's entire offense. There are NONE of his offensive players in the NFL to date. You can't say that about Tebow, Young or Manziel. As far as his opposition in college, go look at the games and his stats against FL.ST, Clemson, NC ST, Boston College,
And he improved significantly with time. He especially keeps his eyes downfield longer than he did in 2016, and is a bit less prone to scrambling.
His mechanics are very correctable. A lot of good things to work with.
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1 minute ago, RPbillsfan said:
Stupid fans and their idiot opinions seldom make the team better.
I don't really think the fan opinions matter at all to be honest.
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1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:
Lacks touch and is inaccurate.
He actually has pretty good touch on his passes. The consistency with his accuracy could be greatly improved with targeted modifications to his throwing base.
He is not a top 5 pick kind of prospect, but I think he worth a mid-late 1st round flyer.
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1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:
Yet his completion percentage on simple slants is hovering around 50%.
I've seen Lamar play. His legs give him an early advantage on the other QBs in the class, but he has a LONG way to go to be NFL level good passing the football.
There's a reason NFL execs wanted him to try his hand at WR and frankly, it's easy to see.
Lamar has physical tools that Tyrod didn't have. He is larger and longer.
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8 minutes ago, wppete said:
Did he call yet?
Word is Gettleman is actually there in person and is riding Beane around the room and making him whinny like a pony.
Beane is doing everything he can not to get fired by the end of the day. So many Bills fans to appease, so little time.
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Just now, joesixpack said:
Lamar Jackson is not win win it’s all lose
Don't be too sure of that. He definitely doesn't hold the value of the top prospects, but he has a ton of potential.
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3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:
I swear some people convinced themselves Beane would be able to trade backup linebackers and guards and "draft day" his way all the way up to #2.
And a lot of us thought it would take something roughly in line with the Eagles trade or the draft value charts. Now it is as clear as day that the picks are valued significantly above Goff/Wentz. That is new information.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Ballin said:
We have the 12 pick. Lamar Jackson might drop to 12.
I think he will definitely make it to 12. I guess now that you mention it it wouldn't be the biggest surprise ever if someone took him higher than that.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo Ballin said:
We are NOT getting the second pick. Y'all effin' crazy. We don't have enough. However, Cleveland Brown's 4th pick is still in play. Maybe. We're not getting Rosen. Andrew Luck will not be traded either. Lamar Jackson, Welcome to the Buffalo Bills. Oh hell yeah.
I think the Bills will need to trade up from 22 if they want to get both Jackson and a top LB prospect.
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3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:
Shhouldn't even be a choice...go to 2 now
It is definitely a choice. You never handicap yourself into a corner. The Jets just blew up the market for the top picks. We are way beyond what the Eagles gave up in value to get Wentz.
I have been a proponent of trading up, but things have changed dramatically now.
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Just now, Reed83HOF said:
QB>>CB and any other position for that matter
If picks aren't enough and you need to give talent up - all should be on the block
Tre White is one of the only top-end franchise value players that the Bills have. CB is one of those positions that needs a cornerstone player, that is worth a massive contract. We have a young, top-end performer on a cheap rookie deal. In the NFL, you don't trade those types of players for picks.
Do you think our GM & HC are CRAZY!!!
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Posted · Edited by Fetou
I just looked it up and they didn't. Kelly makes it three. That means the Bills have a 33.3% success rate at drafting Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the 1st round!
Get it done OBD