RalphWilson'sNewWar

You want to go on record and say Brady and Wilson were top prospects? you already want to say relationships don’t mean anything in the NFL. and you further compound by saying the TOP QBs in the draft will simply fall to teams later in the draft. lol. what else do you want to roll out. First impressions. Wow!

Refuted by people who think Brady and Wilson and Brees were top prospects going into the draft. All wrong. as you are. Btw you BEEBE May work with Reich in Indy? Relationshiiiiips. tell ou what champ. Beside not to debate me. We don’t know each other but something about you should know... i dont start a battle unless it’s already won on my end. thats a free one sport. In the 2nd round. Doesn’t qualify.

The title of the thread is Top Qb PROSPECT. any prospect is pre-draft.

Just look at the history the past. My argument continues to get stronger and stronger.

2 out of your 3 were not considered Top Prospects going into the draft. do you see what I’m saying? Okay going to try one more time. i am excluding QBs who are “the man” for their team now because they were not considered generally to be TOP PROSPECTS going into the draft. how do I put this...don’t look at what happened. Look at what was. the only way to get Cam Newton was to be the worst team in the league the prior season or trade with Carolina. Only way. newton was the Top Prospect. You couldn’t wait for him to slide or anything else. if you tell me you don’t want to trade up for a QB this season. The only way you are getting the TOP RATED College QBs in 2019 is being bad or trading being bad or trading. the bills will not be 9-7 in 2018 and simply have the top QB Prospect fall to them.

Weak? Lol. Well this thread spiraled quickly. This whole idea came from caller to the radio station who didn’t want to part with draft picks and instead wanted to push it off another year getting a quarterback and what you have to realize is nothing will change next season . To get the top premier prospects in a draft that play the quarterback and if you target getting one you cannot bank on teams passing. You either have to be awful and secure a very high pick or you are going to have to part with many assets to move up. The times the best prospect (at the time, not what they eventually became) slid down the board do not usually get happen The caller didn’t seem to factor in that he would have to sit through an awful season if you wanted to draft the top quarterback prospect. good teams aren’t the teams that draft the top rated 1st round QBs. They are 2-14 3-13 4-12. Those are the teams. Or they are the eagles who trade a boat load, get criticized and get their guy. i exclude the Kapernicks and the Dalton’s and Wilson’s...all guys who were not the TOP Rated Prosepcts... it seems there is a contingent that do not realize cost or a price has to be paid to secure such talent in the draft. either cost of being awful on the field or the cost of moving already acquired parts/picks.

Wilson wasn’t what I would deem a TOP Prospect in that Draft. and The Eagles gave up picks and Players which many in our fan base can’t even bring themselves to want to do. i do agree though we haven’t really suffered enough,

Arent you the poster who believes the K. Benjamin Trade was just coincidence and not connections. That was you!!! Lol. Your the dude who doesn’t believe in relationships. Oh brother. but beside that embarrassing post of your time on this board...let’s see the evidence.

I feel this gets lost in the debate over Drafting QBs. i only see it two ways into getting the top QB Talent (I should preface...agreed upon QB talent seeing as Manuel was the first QB taken, but no one believed in that class and we even traded down.) You either have to... 1.) Suffer by being an awful team the season before. or 2.) Suffer by sacrificing current players and draft capital to trade up in the draft. Those are the only two options as I see it reason I’ve been thinking about this was a gentleman called up John Murphy show past week and said to John and Donald we need to wait on draft a QB “do it next season “and I was sitting listening to him and I wanted to ask that caller “sir do you realize to do it next season you’re going to have to sign up for being an awful team in 2018 or you’re going to have to trade all of your draft picks away which is what you don’t want to do this season and I believe that fans who don’t want to trade up also don’t want to be bad either. and Buffalo seems stuck in this never ending loop. Keep Tyrod until you find some better. Well there will never be anyone in FA Better, because why would they be available if they were better. And no rookie is going to come in immediately and you can say 100% They are better immediately. Again stuck in a loop. stuck in a loop and unwilling to pay the price.

Best part of the whole Off Season with Taylor is listening to National and some Locals say... ”oh no he wouldn’t be a starter for other teams...but you in Buffalo should really want him!” lol

We always look at trades and try to debate who won the trade? Was it a win for Buffalo? McCoy Trade was a win for Buffalo. so how does trading everything for A QB become a win? looking to get people’s idea of what a win would be for Buffalo. maybe I went overboard with my expectations. But this QB needs to seriously move the needle.

I would need: 1.). 15-16 Seaons as the starter 2.). Playing in over 248-250 games 3.). 10 seasons of playoff appearances 4.). 7-8 Division Titles 5.). 2-3 Super Bowl Appearances 6.). Super Bowl Victory is a must.

I would never thought Taylor to the Dolphins...but when you think about it, some of Taylor’s best games are against Miami. Their fans must think he is some kind of world beater.

...just his guesses, but I would sign up for this out come right now and sleep well the rest of the off season. Bills - Josh Rosen Dolphins - Tyrod Taylor Broncos - Kirk Cousins Jets - Baker Mayfield/Luke McCown Browns - Sam Darnold/Sam Bradford Giants - Josh Allen Cardinals - AJ McCarron Ravens - Lamar Jackson Jaguars - Mason Rudolph https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/19/quarterback-free-agency-draft-peter-king-mmqb

I’m becoming more and more frustrated that the Matt Ryan “fumble” wasn’t overturned and that Paganini didn’t try to get closer for the game winning FG.

I really hope the last guy to the party (who was in some ways an after thought) and with is dismal offensive results in previous stops...isn’t going to be commanding the general input on QB decisions. Get the Best QB. Forget Daboll. If you move mountains to get one of these QBs then Daboll will be the first one gone after 2018 if it isn’t working. He’s low man on the totem poll.

Is McCoys time line concurrent with the Bills timeline to be a top contender? I would say no. so with that...he’s expendable.

I like the vibe of Joes thinking. A real...cut the cord and go for broke approach. There is no safety net in this approach. Cortes was a Spanish Conquistador who upon reaching his destination ordered hi ships destroyed telling his men they would have to conquer or die. There was no going back. no greater motivation to do everything to get a QB then having no other option but to have one.

6 Pages...all over saying it might be nice to have a friendly ear on the other side of the table in trade talks. madness. speaking of Relationships...is it true Reich is looking to brinng DON BEEBE in to Indy to be WR Coach? relaaaaaaationshiiiiiiiiips ?

Well if Beane is that stuck I can offer him this advice. there will be another draft in 2019 to find the all important right guard or the irreplaceable Nicole corner or the game changing depth lineman.

Multiple Holes. with QB being one of those holes?

Thats the real overall point. I’m obviously being a little facetious with demanding Reich be overly favorable. but...it couldn’t hurt to have relationships with potential trade partners.

You did it again and quoted me. you just have to follow the league and understand the relationships. unless...you think the Bills just coincidently traded for K. Benjamin. Hehe you did didn’t you. Oh boy. tell you what...less quoting me. More following the league.

Relationships matter in deals. Always have...always will. please refrain from quoting me in the future unless you bring the goods.

Head Coaches aren’t mute zombies in the war room. look at McDeremott