oldmanfan

You cannot say they were inferior until 1966 when the Super Bowl started. I think our 65 team would have had trouble with the Packers, but I'd have put up the 64 team against the Browns anytime.

Sign me up for this. I could see a move for a CB in the first three picks if Benford can't make it back. I'll look forward to the next version after free agency; I see the Bills going after a big-time edge rusher or WR.

I'm glad you seem to be rescinding the idea that they've done nothing to help Josh.

They also had Beasley who was a great slot WR. Just admit you exaggerated. Now, do they need to add to the room this offseason? Sure. But then again, I heard a very interesting comment about the Chiefs the other day, about how having Mahomes and his ability to lift the performance of otherwise average WRs they have been able to add a lot to their defense. Now they of course have Kelce too, but it's an interesting take. I anticipate we go after a stud WR either in trade, FA, or draft, but it's also true that guys like Kincaid and Coleman need to continue to improve.

You said they have neglected WR for Allen's entire career. Clearly they haven't, as Diggs demonstrates.

Given such insight can you pick stocks for me? Given you can predict the future? The difference yesterday Sunday was coaching to this extent: the call made by Spagnolo to completely switch up that blitz was brilliant. And I think you could question why Cook wasn't on the field that last drive. But when you get down to it, at crunch time the guys on the Chiefs make plays and don't make mistakes. The Bills make little mistakes that cost them. The past two years the offense has had the ball with time left and an opportunity to win the game and hasn't finished. I am confident they will break through.

His entire career? Heard of a guy named Diggs?

You cannot compare stats between eras because of the rule changes. In Kemp’s era defensive backs had a lot more freedom. The average one on one coverage back then would draw a flag for unnecessary roughness today. I wish people who are not old enough to have watched the AFL would quit dismissing their teams and players. No Kemp may not have been the physical specimen Allen is, and no I am not saying Kemp was better by any means. But Kemp was an excellent QB. He had a very strong arm, could run, and was an excellent leader.

Not so fast. The Bills defenses on those championship teams were incredible. They would have given the Browns or Packers a fight if there had been a Super Bowl.

I grew up watching the AFL teams. Caught a pass from Kemp at autograph day. He was a great leader and damn fine QB.

New special teams coach. Maybe new D line coach.

65 years and counting. At the Rockpile in 1960 as a 4 year old. Beane has to upgrade talent like all GMs do. Go Bills!

I can only go by the league protocol.

It sucks. It will suck for a while. But as one of the old guys around here I have memories of our AFL championships, so I think about those. And I do think that so long as #17 comes out on the field we have a shot at winning every year. Bottom line is we have to beat a team that will go down in history as one of the best ever, with a guy in Reid who will go down in history as one of the top 3 coaches and the same with Mahomes. So it's a tough mountain to climb. But I think we'll make it. And I can certainly think of darker days, like when John Rauch used OJ as a decoy, or the Kay Sephenson/Hank Bullough debacle years. I've got 65 years invested now; I'm not going anywhere.

Is this really what you want to discuss today?

I said likely, correct? I suspect we are going to look CB more than safety in the draft, especially given what happened with Benford on Sunday. I envision we will use free agency or trade to go after either a big time DE, WR (or both). Dt is supposed to be deep in this draft, so I see us going there. I heard something interesting this morning about the Chiefs. They said that because of Mahomes and his excellence they were able to go more on defense and build that side of the ball, knowing that with Moahomes (and Kelce) he can make average offensive guys better. Wonder if Beane thinks the same about Josh. Regardless clearly Beane has to hit on guys this offseason. I think Hollins is a definite resign. Made some big plays on offense an special teams and is a fixture in the locker room.

He and Rapp will likely be starters. You know that.

No he wasn't. He has stuff to learn certainly as most rookies do. This is just more emotional irrationality after a tough loss.

Going forward these are two guys that are going to have to make significant contributions. We need younger guys, former draft picks to assume significant roles on this team.

You can go on all day and night about whether Werner could have made the throws Allen can make. And he couldn't. But in doing so you entirely miss the point. What Warner was talking about is reading the defense, setting protections, and having routes available so Josh would not have needed to try and make the kind of hero throw he made, and that Kincaid should have caught. I think Johnson was set to the right of the formation. If he would have just saw the safety blitz and drifter right to give Josh a target Jiosh could have easily dumped it to the right flat and Johnso picks up the first down. The brain goes to different places depending on what you're capable of? Are you suggesting Josh's brain was incapable of processing what was coming on that play? I don't think so. It was a great call by a great DC that fooled Brady, Josh, McGovern, pretty much everyone on the Bills offense. And for that you give Spagnolo credit.

It wasn’t that they didn’t expect a blitz, it’s that they expected it to come from the left side of the formation. I think insinuating that a HOF QB has no idea about playing in the body of any QB is silly.

Need a good off-season to include young guys currently on the roster. Coleman has to figure out how to use his body to get more separation. Bishop looked pretty good and should start next to Rapp. Carter and Solomon need to become assets on the D line. Hardy needs to get off the practice squad and contribute at CB.

No question about it being harder. Beane and his scouts need to earn their $$. And I left out what I ask for every year in the draft - a big tub of goo. Need a 1T to anchor the middle of the line.

I’ll say it again: sometimes it’s not you doing something wrong, it’s the other guy doing something right. And that was a brilliant defensive call

I am not one to rue the Worthy thing. At the time we had Shakir and Samuel, and wanted a bigger possession type target. On offense we need to get another WR and keep Cook and Johnson. Defense I see a splash for a FA rusher, and we need to add to the DBs. Need a minimum of two good CBs.