oldmanfan

I believe you win up front. I would have spent more capital in the O line. Give Josh more time then WRs get open regardless where they’re drafted.

And trading for Diggs. And Shakir is shaping up. I might have gone after one more somewhere along the way. You act like they can play 8 WR at a time.

Well yes, hindsight is great, isn’t it? Because we can go back years and talk about WRs drafted in later rounds that were great and guys drafted in round 1 that didn’t pan out. Over the last several years the Bills drafted a RB that is a good pass catcher in round 2 (Cook is working out), a TE (Kincaid is working out), and a WR (we’ll see with Coleman). And traded a # 1 for Diggs. Facts are stubborn things.

Would you have drafted Reed or Diggs?

So now we’ll compare 3 guys against 2. That math makes real sense. You never answered if you would have drafted Reed or Diggs.

One guy out of several picks that have shown nothing. And Shakir was the go to guy under Brady. I guess you never would have drafted Andre. Or Diggs.

And how did some of their second round picks do vs. , say, Shakir? You are obsessed with what round a guy is picked. I look for talent.

Just discussing. What do you think the primary benefit is of a strong arm? If it’s throwing long passes then data has been shared on TBD showing that only about 1% of passes travel 40 yards or more in the air. I suspect that’s because it it a low percentage chance of success. To me Josh’s arm strength is shown on the intermediate routes when he can fit the ball into smaller areas. Or on out routes. I’d be interested in your video evidence. If by that you mean Josh isn’t seeing or throwing to open guys downfield that’s a different issue that play construction. Do the Chiefs play pretend Kelce is a WR?

I did look at data. Look at the data for the number of long throws. You are advocating for something that simply is not done in the league. And arm strength is more than throwing it long, it is about throwing a 20 yard out hard to where the DB can’t close. And so on. You just keep beating your drum though if it makes you happy.

I keep bringing this up, but in the entire league last year about 1% of passes traveled 40 yards or more in the air. Offenses are not based on long bombs. Allen's arm strength is shown when he can get passes into very tight windows and such. And getting better runners will take the pressure off Josh to run, which will theoretically extend his career. Mahomes has a big arm too, but the Chiefs offense is not based on long passes and they are very successful. When are you going to realize your complaints about the offense around Josh are simply off-base?

Lighten up.

The general plan has been to give veterans who have not worked out due to injuries or whatever a shot vs. spend another draft pick on a WR. You know the top three guys now, just looking for #5 ( I assume Hollins or Shorter is a lock). If a guy like Claypool or Hamler works out great. If not they can get a guy during or after camp that doesn’t make a roster.

I think back a couple years ago to the game against the Fish where we had 2 rookie safeties and a rookie CB starting. And they held Hill and Waddle to very little. The Fish just don’t bother me much.

Bills fans conversations… Going into the draft: We HAVE to draft a WR!!!!! After the draft: Not THAT guy!!!! The week following: We HAVE to add a veteran outside/big WR!!!!! After adding one: Not THAT guy!!!!

They’ll win the division. The Fish lost too much on D and Tua ain’t the guy. The Jets can’t get out of their own way and Rogers will show his age. And the Pats clearly aren’t a threat. Once in the playoffs you got a shot.

If the kid can stay healthy he’s got a shot. People were clamoring for a speed WR before and during the draft. But we have Hamler and Isabella with speed. Is there really any evidence a guy picked in day 3 offers more? I suspect the WR room will look different opening day. Beane may pick up a vet FA after June 1, and once cuts are made may see a guy they like then.

Some think that some think the other. Look up ones where he wasn’t there for different honoree ceremonies and such. Regardless, the man has a wife who has apparently suffered a completely debilitation medical event. If that’s where his attention is focused fine by me.

Nope

Terribly difficult situation. I’ve read a lot about Terry supposedly being absent and not caring, particularly from Sabres fans. If this happened to your spouse you’d be with your life partner first and foremost. Anyone would. Or should.

I am saying a day 3 pick this past weekend is hardly a guaranteed improvement over what is currently on the roster

I like Sims when he’s on with Mad Dog. Seuss on I can take or leave. Ryan seems like he’ll be good, but will JJJ Watt be there each week? Watt, Ryan and Burleson along with Coach is a solid group. And I think the talent of JB (Menafee as well) is very underrated. To balance out conversations and move things along in a studio like that is not easy.

We’ve witnessed the usual stuff post-draft. The second guessing of everything Beane did vs. those praising him to the heavens. Constant arguments about 40 times and gauntlet drills and on and on and on ad nauseum. How we needed to draft a speed guy even though there are several on the roster. On and on and on. But the most important thing that will determine the success of guys like Coleman, what will determine the team’s success, is Joe Brady. He is charged with putting the guys he has in a position to get open, whether that be short throws or long. People are talking about how teams will clog the middle because we don’t have sideline receivers or guys that can go deep. While I would argue that, it’s on Brady to make sure we do by the packages and route trees he designs. He is also charged with getting Josh on board with finding open guys and getting them the ball. To me we have plenty of offensive talent, led by the most dynamic QB and dynamic player in the league. I am encouraged by what I saw from Brady last year, but he must continue to improve. He must continue to alter things week by week so opposing defenses can’t predict what’s going on, which is what ultimately cost Dorsey his job. He must maximize Josh. I think he can, but time will tell. Let’s hope he’s up to the task.

There was also a kid named Gretzky people were pretty fond of. And going back further a kid named Perreault..

Josh's arm strength is shown where he fits the ball into tight windows, where he hits a guy on an out route that is well covered, and such. Throwing a 60 yard bomb is not the be all and end all of arm strength.

again, if you look at the stats from last year there was about one pass per game in the league that was 40 yards or more.