oldmanfan

I think they’re going for a big name WR or DE in either trade or free agency.

True. That’s why the young folk should refrain from “all time” lists!

You’re all doing it again, talking about an All Time list and ignoring the 60’s and 70’s. How about gems like Dan Darraugh, Phil Dokes, Walt Patulski? Tommy O’Connell?

Every single team in the league can play the “we should have drafted this guy” game. How many teams wish they would have moved way up to get Josh? How many for Cook? Shakir? And so on. I agree Beane has not found as many stars in the upper rounds as I’d like. But you also have to let some guys play. So many keep saying Kincaid and Coleman are busts. Not true. Kincaid had a great rookie year and was hurt a lot of his second year. Coleman was showing good progress -remember him going up high to get that one TD in the end zone? That’s why they drafted him. But he got hurt too, and did not come back strong (and was called out by Beane on that). Beane’s picks on D have yielded some solid linemen in Oliver and Rousseau, even Epinesa has his moments. But these guys each need to step in up another notch. The only true bust I’ve seen is Elam.

How old were Elway and P Manning when they won their first? Not that we don’t need improvement in areas but the hysteria is- well- hysterical.

Shakir 821 yards. Hollins 280 yards and 5 TDs. Legitimate.

We won in '64 and '65. Quit with the false narrative.

In terms of physical talent top 5. But has to rank behind guys like Big g Ben that has won. And you have Otto Graham way way too low.

Kuechley is surprising

Well deserved!

depends on the player to be obtained and the cost. In general I'd favor it.

Yes. Next question.

Damn shame he got derailed by injury.

You an me both.

I suspect many of those commenting here were not alive during the AFL days. Why denigrate those teams and their players if you have no actual knowledge of them? Can you directly compare Kemp to Allen? Of course not. The rules were completely different, training was completely different, and so on. I watched Kemp. He was very good. Had a great arm, was really tough, an excellent leader. People criticize his completion percentage but that’s how it was in an age where receivers could get mugged every time they ran a pattern. Some here also say there’s no way the championship Bills could have beat an NFL team. But again I was there to watch. The Bills defense in ‘64 and ‘65 was outstanding. Guys like Sestak, McDole, Stratton, Saimes were as good -really better- than guys in the NFL. And they completely shut down the Chargers and Sid Gilman’s offense two championship games in a row. We might have not fared well in ‘65 against the Packers, but would have had a real shot beating the Browns in ‘64. Those were great days for those of us who lived them.

He of course wants to win but he has to deal with the cap. Fans don’t.

I agree with your general view of non-pessimism, but in your synopsis you suggest we’re not far away but go in to essentially say we have to replace/upgrade every defensive position. Beane never shows his hand, but I suspect he’s going after a stud DE or WR by trade or FA.

It’s easy to say you don’t care about the salary cap when you aren’t an actual GM of an NFL team.

I watched the entire thing. He was clear that they are not going to blow everything up but analyze individual players and make decisions going forward. He emphasized his job is to put together teams that are competitive and give Josh a shot every year. He was clear next year will be a different team. When asked about why his top picks the past several years haven’t been difference makers yet, he acknowledged that Kincaid and Coleman, while young, have to step it up.

Facts are difficult things.

When it comes down to crunch time, the Chiefs coaches never make a bad call and the Chiefs players never fail to execute. The Bills don’t, they make a critical mistake or two somewhere.

My bad. Senior moment!

The 64 team had a great defense and great balanced offense. We could have given the Browns a real fight.

The Chiefs

Agreed. If there was a thing to criticize about Sunday I’d put not having Cook in on the last drive