oldmanfan

We've discussed Overdorf before. I always wonder how much his hands were tied by Littman . What is Overdorf's job now anyway?

Just off the top of my head, somewhat both. We dumped a lot of salary quickly which put us in cap hell this year. But if we had kept all the guys as listed on the OP then we'd be paying a lot this year for some guys that underperformed and would have had less money to fill out the other parts of the roster.

Well since I'm the old fart around here I always assume it's me. Not that there isn't a small sliver of truth to it...

If Ivthiught there was anything to them sure.

So now the juvenile insults. Figures. McD wants a faster guy as his MLB that can cover and get to the ball in rush downs. They did not feel Brown was that guy. As I said earlier maybe Brown could have moved outside. But he got an offer and took it. Guys move in free agency every year. When we got Hyde I'm sure Pack fans complained too.

And was always criticized for making them after guys had picked up 5 yards, right?

That was a mistake.

I don't think so. You said another poster did. I recognize we have some older guys, and said that you will see them replaced over the next year or two with younger talent. Right now we are older and not playing well. But you have young talent at key positions such as QB, LT, MLB, S, CB as a solid nucleus to build on.

I can't answer for other teams. You are somehow equating age and talent. The Bills future depends on drafting really good talent and identifying key FA additions. Emphasis on the draft. If my 25 year old is way better than your 22 year old, does it matter that he's 3 years older?

They have some vets to guide younger guys. Vets like Kyle and Zo and Shady. In the next year or two some if not all of those guys will be gone as they bring in you get talent. Now they may bring some vets in then too for experience. But by then guys like Allen and White will be your leaders.

Nice optimism. But no.

I think Edmunds will ultimately be better. By a lot. Maybe Brown could have gone to OLB

Right. It's simple. You're saying if those guys were not traded/let go and kept on those contracts it would have cost X leaving Y to spend on about 50 other players. Now , could you have restructured some contracts, etc? Sure. But of course Whaley was criticized for that very thing. And it would assume the players would have been amenable to such. It it is simple. The current regime simply did not think some of these guys were good enough to merit the big bucks, and said good bye. I don't necessarily agree with each move but that's the plan. And looking at the roster now you have some young talent to groom and rely on in critical positions.0

Have you ever played a team sport?

The single biggest reason the offense has dropped off is the play of the O line. That is clear to anyone. Brown. He was a FA demanding a big multiyear deal. They determined he ultimately wasn't the answer. And it's not like he would have signed a 1 year deal to keep the seat warm for Edmunds.

I agree. Mystified by Groy's performance or lack thereof.

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Yes they did. Yes they had reasons. Which you don't like. And if they had done the opposite you'd complain they are paying guys too much money for player x.

Some here need to go back the last several years and read posts about Brown. McD needs a versatile MLB in his D. He got one who needs to learn more.

Good summary of the math. May go over some heads though.

So what? The kid unfortunately will likely screw up again and Belichick will show him the door

But enoughbto warrant the money? People have selectively short memories but Brown would get blasted routinely around here for making tackles 5-10 yards from scrimmage and not having the ability to cover. Edmunds has freakish athletic ability. And like Allen he's getting thrown in the deep end of the pool. Yet he isn't even given a chance by some to tread water let alone swim.

Ahem. Tredavius White. Dawkins. Starting CB and LT. Zay Jones. Starting WR. Josh Allen. Starting QB Edmunds. Starting MLB Phillips. Three man DT rotation. Johnson. Starting slot CB. All young, all starting, all learning, all should improve. Since Edmunds is being focused on, let me ask a question. On the second full day you had on your job (after your training sessions analogous to Edmunds preseason) were you perfect. Were you as good at your job that second day as you are now? Or did you improve as you gained experience? Be honest.

Money. Talent. They did not see Brown as being good enough at MLB. Would have cost the millions to resign him.

What Davis did was cowardly. As for Brown, he likely would have made more plays yesterday vs. a rookie in his second game. A year from now? Edmunds will do things Brown couldn't do ever.