oldmanfan

They hopefully have the leaders of their offense and defense after last year's draft. Now what? I recall all listening to Polian once explaining how he puts a team together. He said you have to decide what positions you felt were essential, and that's where you spend your money. His as I recall were QB, LT, WR, rush DE, and CB. The rest you fill in as you can. Given that, Beane and McD and their positions? I think QB and MLB. Got them, hopefully. LT? Should have that in Dawkins. CB? White. They need a good pass rushing DE. They need a good WR. If they go by a similar mindset to Polian, they need to fill in the D line, O line. I personally disagree; I'd invest more in lines. But the problem this year is the guys they use as O linemen aren't good enough. So next year, lot of cap space, lot of draft picks. Should be able to address a lot of needs.

Good point. I think some of our guys up front just don't have the physical ability to stand up to the guy across the line. I am mystified by Groy; a couple years ago he looked good filling in for Wood but he's just getting pushed around.

I agree about the adjustments. That's why McD is right when he says he has to review things. Was it they didn't make adjustments, or was it guys either blowing assignments or just getting beat physically?

Your writing is senseless. No one can understand what you're trying to say.

And he craps thunder!

If you can't make any sense quit posting

Got their QB hopefully on both sides of the ball and they're clearing a ton of cap space. It will be on them now to draft well and do a good job with their cap dollars in free agency. Enough. How many times you going to post the same thing?

Reasonable discussion. Not just assuming everything is wrong, not just that everything is negative. Not assuming everything will be bad.

With the two of them they team made the playoffs last year.

Yeah. How's Winston doing again? Allen will take some shots behind that line to be sure. I would have preferred he sit some first, but looks like he's going to be baptized by fire.

This wee? None. They stunk Sunday. They deserve criticism for that.

Nice. You are kidding, right?

I thought AJ would be the guy for a while until Allen took over. But Peterman beat him out. Should the coaches have ignored that? It's like the folks ragging on Ragland. When he was in camp last year he could not get off the third string. Should that have been ignored? No. So they traded him to a team where he's a better fit. That happens all the time in this league. Now Peterman had a terrible outing, and Allen showed at les a bit that he can handle things. I don't think they should ignore that either come Sunday.

You are yet another one that did not read my thread. My question was simply this: for those who can only post negative things about the Bills, then why are they here? What is their motivation for doing so? Not that you are not allowed to express opinions. But when all your opinions are negative, what motivates you to be on a Bills website. And of course you completely misconstrue that. Your opinion is they have a bad plan. Yet you couch it in the some think they can do no wrong schtick, as if that truly exists around here. That is what gets tiring. They stunk Sunday. No question. Does that mean their plan is moot? No. They made the playoffs last year, and yet you think that was bad. Explain that.

Yeah, maybe the wrong word.

The hyperbolic nonsense on this board gets so tiring at times. How many people here think they can do no wrong? few if any. But when you say they have enough of a trak record to know what they'll do, and ignore that a part of their track record was a team making the playoffs last year, it just gets ridiculous. They have made good moves and bad moves. They have a plan in place to make what they think is a long term contender. Criticixe all you want about the one game on Sunday, but don't make that into a complete indictment. They had three terrible games in a row last year and the same coach rallied them to where? Oh yes, the playoffs.

Like making the playoffs their first year

What this stuff shows to me is what young QBs go through. They have to get the game to slow down for them enough to make plays. They have to get enough experience to make those pre-snap reads and get the ball to the right guy. Of course, it is also on the OC to design plays that get guys open, and then the WRs have to actually win their battles. But young QBs have to get the game to slow down. Peterman is having trouble with that. Allen it seems to me might catch on fairly quickly, in that he showed an ability to recognize when to get out of the pocket, etc. It is the rare young QB that can do it quickly. Didn't get a chance to watch last night, but it could be that Darnold might be one of those rare fins.

The post you refer to is a very good example of what puzzles me and why I started the thread.

You do not change people's inherent personalities just because they happen to be NFL head coaches. Gruden is more bombastic because that's who he is, and rex was the same kind of personality. McD is the kind of guy that is quiet, contemplative, and information driven. He is not going to light up press conferences because he's not that type of person. I am old enough to remember the Packers-Cowboys clashes in the 60's. Lombardi and Landry. Two completely different personalities. Both tremendously successful head coaches.

I would be stunned if Allen isn't named the starter. I understand why they went with Peterman based on his off season and preseason, but it seems clear Allen has way more upside.

Who said it was a fluke? Who is pretending that? Not me. I said Sunday night it was the worst opening game in my memory, and my memory goes back to 1960. Now you're just making things up and it's ridiculous. Shame you? Intimidate you? How absurd. It is a discussion about the Bills, and I asked a question. What is the motivation of those who can only see negatives about the team for whom they are a fan. And that's intimidating? Shaming? Please. Some around here talk about those who see positives as being overly sensitive to criticism, etc. If you can be shamed or intimidated by a question on a Bills chat room you need help. How about you just answer the question, because I really am intrigued by that attitude. I don't understand it. You claim the current HC and GM know nothing. You do realize they are the same two guys that got them to the playoffs, right? So how exactly did they screw the pooch last year? I am not saying people around here have no right to their opinion. I am asking you to explain it using some actual objective criteria. And we may disagree, which is absolutely fine by me. But let's have discussion based on real data. I think they should be criticized when criticism is deserved. You can pile the criticism on everyone in the organization for the train wreck on Sunday. McD can't have his team come out like that, it's unacceptable. I don't understand why they play Ducasse. I would like to see them bring another G or two in. I have no problem being critical; that is different than those who see only negatives even before any actual data, like the stuff about Allen where some already declare him a bust. Or I believe your pet project, about how the Bills don't care about winning and simply want to put more money in Terry's pocket, despite all evidence to the contrary. And then you complain when they try to make moves and they don't pan out (like Coleman) because it cost them cap money. That make no sense. So what is the answer? Why the continuing, relentless negativity? They deserve it for Sunday's game, but not for everything they've done so far. What is your answer, if it isn't too intimidating to ask?

I am stunned they haven't brought another O lineman in. But they do know these guys more than we do. My other question is why Lee was not dressed Sunday. They must know our O line is weak, so why is your best blocking TE sitting?

As always you completely miss the point. I am asking what motivates those who consistently post negatives about the team. What does that do to make them feel better? I sincerely don't get that attitude, and would sincerely like to know what the rationale is for such behavior. Am I saying people should be banned? No. Am I saying one should never be negative? No. I am saying that you should actually have some basis for it. Note my OP was before the first game. Do they deserve criticism for the performance Sunday? Of course. I said on this very site that I have watched games since 1960 and I can't remember a worse performance. But here's an example of what I mean. Before the season starts, before a pass gets thrown, how many people here were saying Allen is a bust? What is the purpose of that? What exactly do posters like that achieve, and what motivates that? Any rational thought process would tell you no one has any idea just yet, but folks like that for some reason get their jollies out of spewing that kind of negativity. I have no problem with negativity when warranted, as after the debacle on Sunday. I do wonder about those who are negative just to be negative, and I'd love to see an explanation..

You have to feel sorry for the kid