oldmanfan

It's time for you to keep quiet. Everyone who knows anything about football talks about how well McD has coached given a team with limited talent, and how he has a solid locker room. But you somehow think you know different based on information you claim is true that you have no way of knowing is valid. Do you hang out in the locker room? No.

Watched the film, some of his analysis seems good and others I'd question. I think he's assuming a guy in his 4th start should know more than most guys do. And his attempt to draw comparisons to performances in college, where he also had limited resources around him, to somehow say he was bad then and will be bad now, is a little absurd to me. To old farts like me there are just way too many of these sites where guys I've never heard of offer up these critiques as if they're experts. And when I ask what his expertise is (because, again, when you google his name I couldn't find a bio) all I get are snarky comments.

Seems like an odd move. I guess Hyde and Bush are ready to go. And they like Neal. Probably be back on the PS this time tomorrow.

Why do you refuse to read? Why? One of the first things I wrote was that I tried to Google the guy to see what his background was, and couldn't find anything. So I asked folks here about it so I can judge. Instead of giving me info, all you want to do is throw out snarky crap. If you know about his background, why not share it? He breaks down this 22 film stuff as if he's a pro. It would be helpful to me to know something about his background to evaluate his critique.

Correct. But instead of just throwing out some snarky comment, why not actually give me some data in what the guy's background is so I can judge whether he has expertise? maybe it's because he doesn't.

A few comments: 1. I have never heard of this site, and I tried to google the author to see what expertise he has, other than sitting in his basement watching film all day. If someone has any input on why his word is important, please inform me as to why. Otherwise I have no idea why I should give his thoughts any credence. 2. I would like to find all the articles this guy has ever written, then go back and read the first four articles he wrote vs. those that he wrote after he gained some experience in actually writing. I will bet his later articles are more cogent in terms of how he structured his arguments, structured sentences, etc. (even though his arguments may be based on little actual knowledge - see above). 3. All four rookie QBs are developing. All of them make good and bad plays every game. Good reads and bad every game. I watched Rosen for a while the other day because he was the guy I thought they should draft. He had the one big play to a guy that was open downfield by about 5-10 yards, and I saw several passes where he just completely overthrew guys. And some guys dropped some balls. Yet that is used for an excuse for Rosen, but when Holmes doesn't come back for the ball and it hits him in the hands somehow that's Allen's fault. Which leads me to my last and most frustrating point: 4. Bills fans, at least some of them, really do not ever want a QB to succeed here. They complain and complain about the Bills not taking a shot at drafting a potential franchise QB, and when they do they scream it's not the right one. The guy leads the team to wins two out of the first four games he starts, but those wins don't count because he didn't throw for 300 yards. They are professional (??) sports writers, who should know better, talk about his inability to read defenses etc. and that he is terrible, as if by his fourth start he is supposed to have learned how to play what most agree might be the most difficult and complex position in all of sports as if he's a 5-10 year veteran. I thought to myself when he was drafted, and I hoped I was wrong, that the fans (??) of his team would not give him a fair chance to succeed and would place way too many expectations on him early. And I was right. People keep expecting the reincarnation of Kelly, and given that there are only around 30 or so QBs in history that wear the gold jacket, it might just be that Allen will not be Jimbo. or he may be. It may be he's or QB for the next 15 years, or that he may not be. What is certain is that's IT"S TOO EARLY to tell. Thank God it's the team making decisions, the team that will give him time to develop, as well as more resources around him. Good thing it's the team making those decisions, because if it was some fans he'd already be gone. It's just ridiculous how much crap this kid is already getting.

The OP is a good example of how many folks have absolutely no clue about the proper use of statistics. As for Wonderlich scores, smarter you are the faster you hopefully learn. It doesn't mean you walk into the league knowing everything.

Remember you can't have good pie without good culture. Yeast cultures in the case of pie, but essential nonetheless.

Pie wins out over most every cake. Unless it is chocolate cake with thick chocolate fudge frosting. Which is a gift from heaven.

No it's not. But they have short and long term goals. If things look like they're more influencinglong term you criticize them about short term things and vice versa In short it appears you look for reasons to criticize.

I don't know of a successfulculture that has not defined, and more importantly lived, its culture. I know of many who claim a culture but the leaders did not follow it. That's a sure sign of failure. Successful company I meant.

I'll dial it back a bit. The question was the Bills beat the Titans but at what cost. I believe that was intended to ask whether winning with a more conservative game plan was somehow negative in stunting Allen's development. You said, I believe, you would rather him throw the ball all day and lose, you just want him to throw. He was forced into that somewhat in Green Bay and you saw the outcome, a lot of sacks and such. So my question is simple: how does him getting sacked like that, losing like that, truly contribute to his development? Oh, and bring the cards.

I'm a bottom line guy. And I win a lot at poker. You would rather your team lose so you can watch the young QB get killed. That makes sense.

Somehow I knew you'd come back. You can't stand being told you might be in error on something, can you? I figured you'd circle back, so here's a reference to types of organizational culture Steve Jobs I think would fit within the Market oriented culture. Focused on differentiation in the market with a desire for strong control on his part. McDermott might be more on the left side on the graph with focus on internalization and integration. Yes, ultimately organizations either win or lose, doesn't matter if you're a football team, business, church, whatever. Culture defines the personality of the organization and how leaders see as the right paths to become that winning organization. I know this is more complex than you might want to acknowledge but the real world is composed of grays, and not just black and whites.

And you criticized their draft picks and FAs like they contribute nothing. You are really just being absurd in your desire to be critical at this point.

You are criticizing the moves they did NOT make, like not bringing in WRs, not taking QB X vs. QB Y, not drafting X instead of Y. And so on.

I'll et you decide on your question. The players they've drafted (and let's assume it's the last two drafts since you'll argue McD ran that draft, but of course when I start naming names it will all of a sudden be Whaley that did): White - stud Dawkins - starting LT Jones - starting to come on Milano- starting OLb and defensive player of the week a couple weeks ago Peterman - backup QB (for now) Allen - their long term QB Edmunds - long term answer at MLB and a stud in the making Phillps - solid rotational DT Johnson - starting slot CB having a good year McCloud - figuring it out and on the active roster Neal - backup safety and special teams guy Teller- grooming as an O line starter As for FAs: Murphy - coming on and showing his pass rushing ability Star- stabilized the middle of the D front Ivory - solid second RB, we don't win yesterday without him Mc Carron - didn't work out and got back a pick for him Davis - went nuts for whatever reason You really want to go there?

If I'm Beane I do everything in my power to build a quality O line in front of the kid as quickly as possible.

So it was not fun watching Rosen today throw in one pass what Allen did in 10 passes Your words, not mine. But I see your overall point and I was a bit hasty.

Got you. I see where you're coming from. I am not as worried about the offense going forth. They have 10 draft picks and a lot of cap space. I expect heavy emphasis on that side of the ball coming up.

No, it's you showing your unfortunate regular lack of understanding. Dareus was a problem child here. He got shipped out. And we still went to the playoffs, and with the moves we made in the offseason our run D is shored up. Dareus is also in what appears to be a better situation for him (I would bet when he got there Coughlin and Marrone laid down the law). I have said a number of times I would have liked Sammy to stay. But he gets what? 15 million a year? And through his first five games this year he has 1 TD? The guys running the BIlls have a way they want to construct the team. You don't like it. Too bad for you.

Right. Because they got rid of guys who either were making a ton of money and not earning it, or were going to demand a lot of money and whom they felt wouldn't earn it. Rodney Harrison said last night about Beckham and the Giants dustup; you can't have the guy making the most money causing the problems, or words to that effect. That was Dareus a year ago.

Good point. DB made a very good play there. But if Holmes takes one step towards the ball it's complete.

If the owner doesn't feel they can develop him. The owner. The guy who knows the most about football vs. the coaches and front office. This site gets funnier by the day. They win a game yesterday but you come on here and you'd swear they got blown out.

The guys that are always accurate and never miss? They wear gold jackets in August. The kid is developing.