oldmanfan

It's too early to know about Rosen or Allen or any of these rookies. But here's my question: why do we insist on making comparisons? Going into the draft one could have made a case for any of the 5 guys drafted in the first round, and history tells us drafting a Qb round 1 gives you around a 50:50 shot at being right. So we took Allen. So far he looks like he might have the goods, but we'll see. If he winds up not being the guy, and say Rosen does, I won't be sitting here crucifying management because of the pick, nor would I crow over it if Allen succeeds and Rosen doesn't. Same with Mahomes; no one (if they're being honest) saw what was coming with him, many saw a kid coming out of a program that had not produced any solid NFL Qbs and with a lot of footwork issues. You take your shot, and you see what happens. You scout the best you can and make the best decision you can. And if GMs make more wrong decisions that right, they lose their jobs. No reason to continually beat the decisions to death IMHO.

Get Rosen some help and I think he'll be fine.

You act like a child. You're shown your wrong on something, then you take your ball and go home. Allen ahs the ball within the catch radius of receivers a lot more than that. You continue to not understand the slightest bit about stats. How many throwaways did he have? Tho

Another one who doesn't understand either physics or statistics. Thanks for playing.

The difference between accuracy and precision is an important distinction and affects critical things such as interpretation of laboratory tests and other critical medical data and in a less important area how NFL QBs perform. It is not a pretentious distinction; you call it that because you are clearl wrong on this and you can't stand being called wrong. So you start your snarky crap; did it on the BBMB and do it hear. Try learning something for a change. You should try learning something as well. Allen needs to improve precision, he is pretty accurate.

By indicating accuracy and precision are the same you show your ignorance of statistical concepts. They are different and I will use the dartboard analogy yet again. If you want to hit the bulls eye and throw say 10 darts, if each missed by an inch but surround the bulls eye you are accurate but not precise. If you throw the same The and they hit the exact same point, but that point is three inches away from the target you are precise but not accurate. This is a basic tenet of statistics. QBs throwing passes strive to have both high accuracy and precision. Allen is accurate in that his passes are around his receivers by and large and allow them the opportunity to make a catch. He needs to work on improving precision while also being accurate. And that should come as he gains more experience, makes better reads, and such. We are seeing a young QB making progress his first year. No reason to think he won't continue that especially if he is given more talent around him.

You don't understand statistics. It's very clear from your posts. Most people don't. You're just another guy who cherry picks crap stats to buttress your preconceived notion that Allen won't succeed.

Just one time you should have the sense to admit you're wrong and learn something from others who have a greater understanding of things like statistics, accuracy, etc. You are confusing accuracy and precision, like many. Allen is pretty accurate in that his receivers can make a play on his passes. He needs to be more precise. Really good QBs are both. And to say the pundits are looking at every throw is , to use your favorite word, nonsense. Most of the stuff I read harps on the completion percentage stuff, and even Rodak posted the other day that if you look at the adjusted rate he's middle of the pack. Statistical analysis in general for pro sports is overly simplified and does not use multivariate analysis to take into account the multiple variables that can affect something as simple as whether a pass gets completed or not. And missing Clay by 8 yards is simply silly reasoning. The ball hit him in both hands. Was Clay supposed to just stand still in the back of the end zone, or does he have any responsibility to adjust to the throw. Professional football players are supposed to catch balls that hit them in the hands.

You also continually demonstrate you do not understand what the term accurate means.

Actually he's not. And I and others have explained numerous things the fallacy of completion percentage as a measure of accuracy. But you refuse to accept this because it interferes with your bias that he's bad.

Way to cherry pick quotes.

I like what I see from the kid. The only real criticism I'd have from yesterday is he did that thing again when he was scrambling to his right and threw across his body again towards the middle of the field and almost got picked. He has to stop doing that.

I was astounded McKenzie came back. Thought it was an Achilles for sure. Wonder if Murphy plays next week since they popped it back in.

Good work by the OP. I don't necessarily agree on the interpretation of each throw, but by breaking it down like that it shows Allen is actually pretty accurate. Much better than a cursory look at completion percentage.

If they play any position on offense other than QB I'm all for whomever.

For the first time in a long time I feel like we have a QB that can win us a game in the fourth quarter

That's not how it works. Wait too long you get sacked.

No one was open?

Yep

He took what he thought was a free shot deep. Clearly oddsides

Two teams not afraid to throw at Tre last week and this week. Young man needs to step up. I suspect he will.

This Golliday kid is for real. Any chance he's a FA?

You have to love the kid

Tre is human

Teller needs to keep his head up. Was looking to his right and never saw that guy coming