oldmanfan

Guess. Thankfully you realize maybe that all your pontificating is guesswork. Maybe we should pick up your boy Winston. Duh. They have to compete in the free agent market. Water is also wet. Target guys you really think will make a difference and go get them. I suspect they have guys they're looking at like Hyde and Poyer, somewhat under the radar but solid contributors.

How dare you point out fact to the guru of the NFL.

Yes, you would have traded an entire draft for a guy that is horrible. Own it. And then quit lecturing folks around here about what passes for quality decision making in the NFL. Because you don't have any better idea than the next guy. They drafted the guy they want to lead the franchise this year, they now need to build around him. It is amazing around here how many people yelled about how the y will never be a winner until they get their QB, then when they get who they hope is their QB all of a sudden everything flips and it's that they haven't put pieces around the QB, and that's it's not the QB that's the most important thing. They know they have a ton to do on the offense. Their jobs will depend on that. As it should be. And before you start with your crap about Allen, I have one word for you: Winston.

Did I say it was not his fault? No. They did try to replace Wood with Groy and then Bodine. They tried to bring other guys like Brown in at WR but he signed elsewhere. And Daboll's offense will be fine once he gets guys that can play. Yes it's on them. They have to fix the offense this offseason. It's on them to do that. Meanwhile, you pontificate as if you are a genius at NFL football, and as I say all the time you are the guy back on the BBMB who said he'd trade his entire draft to get - wait for it - Jameis Winston!!! You have no credibility, so quit trying to pass yourself off as some guru. Your opinion is no more valid that anyone else around here.

No one lied. Quit acting like a three year old. OK, enough of this nonsense. Some of the issues ae on them but some of the stuff here is just pure nonsense. One by one: 1. They released Tyrod because they felt he was not the kind of QB to get them where they wanted to go, and to pay 16 million for a backup is ridiculous. They should have brought a veteran in to back up Allen when they traded McCarron; that even Beane has said he regrets. That is one them, as it as starting Peterman game 1. 2. Wood: they had Groy who they felt was an adequate replacement based on his play a couple years ago. They brought in Bodine. There simply aren't that may good centers around the league, and Groy for whatever reason didn't come close to meeting expectations. And Richie went nuts. 3. Sammy, Darby, Woods: They did not fail to resign Woods, that was Whaley. Beane wasn't even here. They traded Sammy because they did not see paying a guy the kind of money he wanted. He didn't earn that kind of money in LA, the Rams didn't think so either. Darby isn't lighting the world on fire in Philly.

Beane and McD did not expect this. They did know they needed to clear some guys out and get cap space for guys they felt would be better, but they could not have imagined this mess. A couple things contribute to it: 1. When you get two QBs injured in one season, it is going to stink regardless of anything else. I don't think Peterman was terrible yesterday, but he was what one could reasonably expect: a second or third string guy that tried to keep his team in it. They could have, and Beane said should have, gotten a vet in here earlier, but I don't think that changes the equation much. One can only hope Allen gets back soon. 2. The O line fell apart after Wood retired and Richie went crazy. It is difficult enough to find O linemen that can play today, and that situation was made worse by these two losses. They tried to fill in with Bodine when Groy wet the bed, but yesterday's performance was beyond the pale. I must have screamed ten time: BLOCK SOMEBODY! This has to be the main emphasis in the off season. Has to be. And that may start with a new O line coach. 3. WRs that forgot how to catch and/or compete. I understand trying to bring Benjamin in last year since they had their playoff shot. But his inability to catch and seeming disinterest in competing must be a shock to the two leaders of the organization. They tried to bring guys in like Brown as FAs, but they didn't get them. as with the O line, another main emphasis in the off-season. 4. Shady aging suddenly: He is not the same Shady we've seen before. A lot of that is O line, but Ivory can be productive as a guy that is a one cut hit the hole type. Shady may need to be used more as a change of pace, split him outside kind of guy now. 5. Coaching: The hot thing is getting a fairly young O coordinator willing to bring in some college stuff. I think Daboll fits that bill, but he is hamstrung by the above motioned talent gaps. I think they need to lean on him heavily this coming off-season to target guys he believes can help him in the offense he wants to run. Castillo can go; let Daboll bring a line coach in that coaches what he wants. A new special teams guy might be OK. And McD may have to call the defensive plays

That is the same situation for 32 teams in the league. Quit making it like the Bills are unique.

Saying we have continually wasted high draft picks on QBs pretty much shows you have no idea about the history of the Buffalo Bills So for years people barked about the Bills never going all in to get their QB. They did so this year, and now all of a sudden we need to get a veteran QB that has never gotten a team close to the Super Bowl because that is the correct answer. Make up your minds, folks.

Note to SoTier: Two words: Phillip Rivers.

Tough times this year. With respect to the culture stuff that gets criticized around here, go to si.com today and look at the article on the Pats victory yesterday, then read what Dwayne Allen says about the team. Yep, it's all about culture. I am as frustrated as anyone with the way they looked yesterday. People are blasting Peterman again, but he looked like what he is supposed to be yesterday, a backup QB. When you hit WRs right in the numbers and they can't hold onto the ball, there isn't much you can do. But he also went brain dead with his run at the end of the half, and that can't be accepted. Despite all the howling at the moon, you cannot just continue to recycle HCs and GMs all the time and ever expect success. Just won't happen. The current GM and HC have said continually that the rebuild will take some time. They're right. They have to rebuild the O line; yesterday's performance up front was an embarrassment. They have to find WRs other than Jones that will compete for balls and actually catch balls that hit them right in the hands. They need to get their young franchise potential QB back on the field. So this year sucks, but I guess my age and history with the BIlls makes it less painful than for others. I can still think back to the AFL championships of 1964 and 1965. But I can also remember the days of Dan Darragh playing QB, or Joe Dufek, or coaches like John Rauch, Jim Ringo, Hank Bulllough. So I know it can be way worse. What the current situation reminds me of more than anything was the early 80's, when a young assistant GM named Bill Polian came on board as the new GM. And the first thing he told Ralph was that he could not win with the players he had, and that he had to start spending money if he wanted to compete. Even under Polian the first couple years were lean years, but after getting their QB, after drafting well, after judicious trades and FA acquisitions, you all know what happened. Is Beane another Polian? Or McD another Marv? Have no way to tell right now. If you think Beane and McD don't understand they need to do a serious upgrade on the offensive side of the ball, you're being willfully ignorant. Can they accomplish that? We will see. They set themselves up to have a bunch of cap space and a bunch of picks. It's on them to use them wisely. if they don't, then they will deservedly be looking for employment down the road.

Don't fire coaches unless you want to see this team continually spin its wheels. 1. Linemen. Spend cap dollars on linemen. Yesterday the line was just pathetic. 2. WR. Say goodbye to KB. Draft a WR early and get one in FA. 3. Get Allen back under center. Until then you're treading water. 4. Start transitioning from Shady. Put him and Ivory on the field together, split him out , use him in jet sweeps. But make Ivory the guy in one back lineups.

5 days and counting. You made a hysterical post knowing it was absurd. Own it.

Hard to watch no doubt. Can't put it on Peterman. - hit guys in the hands on two picks and Jones got mugged on the third. He looked like a functional backup QB. On the other hand, I thought we'd need two O linemen next year. It's now 4 at minimum and maybe 5 although this might have just been one off game by Dawkins. No running lanes whatsoever. Just an embarrassing performance up front. Defense missed Edmunds and Gaines got toasted.

5 days later. No firing. I'll just keep counting I guess.

A coach that made the playoffs last year and has a plan going forward is not getting fired this season. If it somehow makes you feel better to bark at the moon about it have fun.

He's not getting fired this season. And you know that.

You do not know that at all. We do know he's not getting fired this year. That is definitive. There was a thread pages long starting Tuesday that Beane should be fired the next day. Well, it's Sunday now and guess what? What exact purpose do threads calling for phantom firings serve?

Not necessarily. Give guys time to put things together. With your kind of mindset guys like Levy and Belichick and Carroll and Jimmy J may never have become the greats they became.

There is no real premise. It is just another guy crying because the team isn't doing that well. What if you flip the question, and ask how many teams become successful switching coaches every year or two? Answers for that is zero.

Belichick Pete Carroll Andy Reid

I made a statement of fact. You know McDermott isn't getting fired. What is the purpose of continuing to start threads like this, if not to just whine?

The whining is at epic proportions. Everyone on this board, every single person, knows there are no firings coming. Yet we are deluged with these same type threads on a constant basis.

Thank you

Yes, they had players they didn't think fit the bill. So they ripped the band aid off in one year. Now they have a ton of space and a ton of picks

Oh, and the above are facts? Go back to school and study this time Yet another Nostradamus rears his head around here. You and others saying someone needs to be fired now when you know it's not happening is almost the definition of living in the fantasy world