oldmanfan

I think some of it is the ups and downs of life in the NFL. Jets are way down; hard for them to play well under their set of circumstances. Some of it was having a QB that operated the game plan well, although I don't expect that same Barkley every week, if he continues to start. Some of it was the development and progression of the young guys on the team. It takes time for younger guys to figure it out. Some of that wait time is shorter; for example Tiller came in after watching and learning for a little more than half a season and looked quite good. Milano is a force on D, took him a season or so to get it. Lawson it took several years; he was a force yesterday. Zay is starting to get it. When you have young guys like that it's great to see what happens when the lights get turned on, but often the light fades at times and you get clunky performances. Longer you play, hopefully the longer the light stays on. And the last part is coaching and management. Beane and his boys keep scouring the waiver wise, and they pick up this kid Isacc whomever and he looked pretty good. Foster obviously showed up, and that after spending some time on the practice squad figuring things out. Doesn't mean they'll do this every game of course, but you have to give credit to Beane and his staff, and McD and his, for recognizing they needed more speed on the offensive side, and taking the steps necessary to answer that issue. Hopefully that becomes a longer term answer. And of course bringing Barkley on board, although again could of course be a one hit wonder, this hit being a grand slam. You have to give McD credit as well for going on the road and getting his team geared up to play the game they played. Reports are that Jets ownership was apoplectic as to how our team look so fired up and the Jets looked moribund. One of my favorite sayings, not only about the NFL but life in general (especially in our country today) is people only see black and white in a world of grays. The last two weeks, it was all black: fire this guy, fire that guy, this guy stinks, the owner is incompetent, they have no idea how to manage the QB spot, and so on. Today it's all white: thinking about whether Barkley is our long term answer, maybe we make the playoffs, and so on. In reality it is a world of grays. They played well as a team yesterday, time for enjoyment of course but not cause for dreams of a resurgent QB, or playoffs, much like the struggles for a couple weeks did not mean the team is hopeless and everyone should be cut or fired. A nice shade of grey yesterday. Very light gray, with patches of white. A very enjoyable landscape. Let's hope that pattern holds for a while.

Just shut up. For God's sakes just shut up already. Who else could start? Milano, Edmunds, Johnson, Jones as a# 3 receiver, Tiller given the poor state of many O lines. Dawkins. You've reached a new level of pathetic.

Still need a better quality center and LG.

Just wanted to circle back. I enjoyed it very much. Hope you did too.

Thanks and much respect to all the vets out there

I do not defend them at every turn as any cursory reading of posts would tell you. Your act is old and tired.

If they do they'll deserve it

Absolutely. Groy was a big disappointment. I expect picks and FAs up front. Perhaps a new O line coach.

I will as I have enjoyed watching since 1960. Sometimes screaming in frustration, yes. But that is what happens when you're a fan. you want to quit, quit.

I suspect he's costing himself a ton of $$

Everyone including Beane agrees they should have had a vet here when McCarron got traded. Drafting what you hope is your long term answer at QB does not equate to messing up the most important position. That means you are addressing the most important position.

He drafted the young guy. And he's hurt. People have screamed for years we need to take our shot at a QB. And he did.

No fan is going to wait 5 years was your point. So? They can't decide whether they stay on or not. You want to stop watching or rooting for them go ahead. Most fans won't.

Fans don't own the team though.

Name a starting center in free agency they should have signed. Other than Bodine. And they had Groy who had filled in capably. Plus they had Dawkins at LT so Glenn was replaced. Guard I can see.

And here we go with the nonsensical profit trumps winning crap. They drafted their heir young QB to be their future. He got hurt. Facts vs. your crap.

They are not getting fired and the constant calls for such are beyond ridiculous at this point

1. Name the C that was on the market they should have signed. 2. Richie signed the deal.

The starter and backup are hurt. Your third QB didn't do well. So now another one. That is what happens when two guys get hurt. Duh.

The only thing the current regime did wrong, if you want to call it that, was not signing a veteran guy to come in after McCarron was traded. Beane said as much. And from what I've read, they tried to do so. Other than that? Peterman played really well in preseason. You can howl all you want about preseason not counting, but he clearly beat out McCarron. No question. But he threw up again in the regular season games. Even last week he hits three guys in the hands and still got picked. Not much can be done about that. But clearly he has now shown he just can't be trusted. So they brough in Anderson. He got hurt. Allen got hurt. Two QBs got hurt. The third guy hasn't cut it. So they had to sign a fourth guy, another vet in Barkley that has a meh history. What exactly do you think they're going to get at this point in the season, a Pro Bowl type guy? Barkley is Anderson is Sanchez is Moore is any other veteran guy out there in the same position. So going forward you hope Barkley provides something. You hope Allen comes back after the bye. For the bloodthirsty I suppose you can cut Peterman. Other than that, what. Two QBs including your young starter went down. Any team in the league would have troubles then, unless you're playing the Raiders.

Injuries happen

Everyone is tired of your act.

Allen in terms of QB. I absolutely agree that any QB needs pieces around him. I presume that will be the major focus this offseason.

One could also say Barkley filled in OK with the Bears. Ultimately it's Allen that matters.

Ed Rotkowski? Marlin Briscoe? Joe Dufek? Bruce Mathewson?