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Because it's a chat room. So we chat. I like Allen a lot and think he's our long term guy. But say hi to John Elway. Steve Young also sends his regards.

No. Like what I see so far, but if you look at the HOF out of hundreds of guys who have played QB in the NFL there are roughly 30 that made the grade. And we had one of them. Allen may have a very long and successful career, maybe even HOF worthy. But no way you say he's going to be better than Kelly at this point.

I think you've done a very fair assessment. Clearly he has a ways to go, as do all the rookie Qbs, but you have to be encouraged by what you've seen the last two weeks.

They may be looking to add something at that position in the draft. A very strong defensive draft so getting a edge rusher in round 1 would be a good use of a pick. Murphy I can go either way given what they get in the draft; Lawson has had a pretty good year, Yarborough is a solid rotational guy. And to the OP: McD has done exactly the opposite of losing the locker room. You have no clue and your rants are ridiculous at this point.

I'd put money down on Taylor in a 40 yard dash.

I explained the math about completion percentage. You throw 30 passes in a game it's 1.5 passes different between 60% and 55%. Those are factual mathematics and statistically meaningless. You continue to make grand criticisms based on nothing factual. Young QBs need to develop. We all know that. Except for you apparently.

People have explained with rational explanation why you're wrong but you keep clinging to irrational thoughts.

I remember my pee wee coach telling us that if you get your hands on it you should catch it

By the way, a sweeping generalization like this with no support adds nothing to the discussion.

Nothing. I've said often he has things to learn and has a ways to go. But this business about some magical difference between 60% and 55% completion rate somehow meaning he's inaccurate and that it's some bellweather is nonsense, and simple math and stats show it.

Posted in another thread but also belongs here: People confuse the concept of accuracy with that of precision. The classic example of this is throwing darts at a dartboard. Let's say you aim at the bulls eye and keep hitting the inner 10 ring. Hit it the same spot every time. You're very, very precise but you're not accurate. Now, let's say you didn't hit the bulls eye but you surround it pretty closely with all your darts. Now you're very accurate, but not precise.  When people critique accuracy they really are critiquing precision. Can you stick the ball exactly in the same spot every time? I think there are very few QB that are incredibly precise. Most good ones are really accurate; the ball is always within the receiver's catch radius. And ideally of course you want high precision AND high accuracy. But that's very rare.  Now, can you teach accuracy? Obviously yes or guys like Brady wouldn't go back to his coaches and work on drills every off season. Muscle memory helps in any athletic endeavor, whether it be throwing a football or baseball, kicking a soccer ball, golf swing, shooting free throws. As a QB it may take more as you would have to maintain that with large humans gunning for you, but it certainly can be worked on and improved 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But it isn’t. He literally has never been like a 55% passer his whole career. It matters whether you think so or not. Those 5 passes missed can be the difference between Ws and Ls.  In todays nfl, if you aren’t a 60% passer, you aren’t a starting level qb. Allen is a Rookie on a bad offense so he gets pass. But it needs to get better.  Math is not your strong suit. Let's say you throw 30 passes in a game. Complete 18 and it's 60%. Know what 55% is? Completing 16.5 passes. Or 1.5 passes less a game. So let's say you have everyone covered and throw one out of bounds so you don't take a sack. Or your WR drops one or runs a bad route. There's your difference between this supposed magical 60% vs. 55% completion percentage. And it has absolutely nothing, as in zero, to do with accuracy.

You don't understand the concept of accuracy. Go look at what I posted in the thread about whether passing is like shooting free throws.

People confuse the concept of accuracy with that of precision. The classic example of this is throwing darts at a dartboard. Let's say you aim at the bulls eye and keep hitting the inner 10 ring. Hit it the same spot every time. You're very, very precise but you're not accurate. Now, let's say you didn't hit the bulls eye but you surround it pretty closely with all your darts. Now you're very accurate, but not precise. When people critique accuracy they really are critiquing precision. Can you stick the ball exactly in the same spot every time? I think there are very few QB that are incredibly precise. Most good ones are really accurate; the ball is always within the receiver's catch radius. And ideally of course you want high precision AND high accuracy. But that's very rare. Now, can you teach accuracy? Obviously yes or guys like Brady wouldn't go back to his coaches and work on drills every off season. Muscle memory helps in any athletic endeavor, whether it be throwing a football or baseball, kicking a soccer ball, golf swing, shooting free throws. As a QB it may take more as you would have to maintain that with large humans gunning for you, but it certainly can be worked on and improved Math is not your strong suit. Let's say you throw 30 passes in a game. Complete 18 and it's 60%. Know what 55% is? Completing 16.5 passes. Or 1.5 passes less a game. So let's say you have everyone covered and throw one out of bounds so you don't take a sack. Or your WR drops one or runs a bad route. There's your difference between this supposed magical 60% vs. 55% completion percentage. And it has absolutely nothing, as in zero, to do with accuracy.

You want them gone organize a writing campaign to sponsors and tell them you're ignoring their establishments.

Not cut just not resign

Lawson is playing good football. Murphy has a contract that they can easily get out from this coming year if they want. And they gave up under 200 yards to the Fish yesterday.

It's too early in the day to be drinking that much

I guess. Still really disappointing.

One of the mysteries of this season is why Groy's performance at C fell so far off after filling in capably for Wood a couple years ago.

Mastered the short-intermediate game? As in never misses a pass? And your statements are facts vs. everyone else just having an opinion? Get over yourself. You're just another wannabe NFL coach that thinks he knows it all and doesn't.

First, try writing in English. Second, McDermott isn't going anywhere.

Jerry needs to get hold of himself as well.

I'll have to go back and watch the past couple games in detail, but off the top of my head my impression is more like he's quite accurate when he has time to set up in the pocket, and that he tends to spray it more when he's scrambling. Either way, it will be neat to watch this kid the next few years especially as they build weapons around him.

If in fact the ref called him that the ref needs to be fired today,. That's just ridiculous.

This would be without understanding cap space implications, and just going on team impact: Benjamin Clay DiMarco (unless Daboll really sees a need for a FB) Miller Ducasse Groy