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I haven't seen any lines to read through. Just smoke so far. McD is the king of coachspeak. He never shows his hand.

Yeah, and if Tyrod could go through his reads quickly and throw the damn ball, he'd be a franchise QB.

Of course, we're still picking a QB high, right? Bradford is a downgrade from Tyrod as a "bridge QB". I'm not even going to get into his injury issues. Dude has a knee of glass.

Yep - Landry is tough to value too. He's the new Wes Welker, great player, but not an elite one. He is just entering his prime. I would think great players at his age would get more than a mid round pick or two in a deal. Think of it this way - what are the odds that you are going to find a receiver in the 3rd round that gives you 60% of what Landry produced, maybe 30%?

Landry was a 2nd round pick. He goes out and puts up superb numbers. Nobody has caught more balls him in the first four years, ever. And you can't even get a 2nd round pick for the guy? Yes, you'll have to pay him, but so what? 2/3 of the league could take his contract on today. This trade market is truly bizzare.

Landry is the fastest receiver to 400 catches in NFL history. I look forward to hearing what they gave up, probably peanuts.

Not sure about the first statement, but yeah, not too many corners that match up to 6'5, 230' with pretty good speed.

Yeah, I think we can kill that narrative. Evans is as productive as they come, even with erratic QB play.

Hogwash. There are plenty of mid to late 1st round rookies who made big contributions to their franchise in both the short and long term. You telling me getting players like Brandin Cooks, Bradley Roby, Deandre Hopkins, Travis Frederick, Xavier Rhodes, Chandler Jones or Harrison Smith is not going to make a difference?

Cox and Donald are incredible defensive tackles, you are correct. They are the most important player on those defenses. Suh just isn't having that type of impact. Their defense is getting toast. Dareus has just become a big guy who eats up interior OL and doesn't move.

$100m+ deals are OK for elite pass rushers and QBs, but it's just to much cap to allocate to a defensive tackle. He has not made their defense elite.

Who has been better than him the past 6 seasons?

Yeah, because he was too busy slamming purple drank.

I'm too busy working on Lindsey Vonn, but I'd settle for JL.

For everyone who says "won't happen", I just have to chuckle. There are major reaches, slides and trades every year that completely destroy our perception of "value". Why will this year be different?

Very lazy comparison. Manziel has some serious mental health and substance abuse issues. We really don't know how good he could have been. This isn't the 80s, cocaine and the NFL don't mix.

As I mentioned, if the Broncos didn't have Roby, who is a superb player, he wouldn't be on the block. You can't pay three corners. His film and on the field production is obvious, he's an elite corner back. He has a contract that matches that level of play. Locker room...he was a team captain. He may be blunt, critical and in your face, but he is respected. He is a wild man, that is also obvious. Some coaches can deal with it, some can't. He didn't have issues with Wade Phillips, but I bet him and Belicheck weren't exactly pals. Yes, we are trying to build something, but this is a player who checks plenty of boxes. It's not like we were lights out against the pass. I get the whole "trust the process" stuff that McD & McB are all about (although, they lay on the "coachspeak" pretty heavy, talking plenty but saying little"), but I believe many of these players (Bennett, Peters, Talib, Quinn) are all low risk / high payoff guys.

Seahawks got away with paying the defense big money, with Wilson mimicking Fran Tarkenton on a cheap contract. Now Wilson is getting big money, and he just can't carry the team on his back. They have the worst offensive line in the year and literally no running game. You have to clear some cap space so you put some pieces around him. Yes, the defense will drop off, but Wilson is an elite QB and can keep this team in championship contention with a few pieces around them. It was really fun watching that defense for years, but all things come to an end.

Marcus Peters and Michael Bennett, both elite IMO, but aren't "model teammates". Talib wouldn't get much. This trade market is downright laughable right now, they'd probably move him for a 5th or 6th pick. What is that 5th or 6th really worth? A flyer on a guy that might be a backup? Big deal. Aggressive man corners always draw more flags, and he may have a game a year where he is suspended. Is it worth it? Good question, but I'd argue yes....Talib has shut down plenty of #1 WRs for years. That really isn't debatable.

Another elite cornerback who could be had for draft pick pennies. His play has been exceptional for years. Broncos need to sign Roby and re-up Harris, they can't pay 3 corners. Tough situation. The "He's not a McD/McB player" stuff is getting so played out. We going to pass on every elite player who needs to be handled a bit differently?

Dogecoin is the best coin.

We've had plenty of good draft picks, but we picked the wrong players. See Aaron Maybin, EJ Manuel, etc. Playoffs were great, but waiting most of my teenage and adult years to see 3 points was pretty lame. I just want to see this team become a consistent championship contender, and that's going to take a major upgrade at a few positions to happen.

Let's go with a ham sandwich.

Add it to the list. Very productive player who is just entering his prime going for low potential draft picks.

Think about a team like the Browns getting all of those players. They've got the picks and the cash, and would still have plenty of 1st through 3rd round selections for the next two years. Their defense would improve by leaps and bounds!