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as long as this doesn't stop the bills from trading up to get their guy, (which i can't imagine it would) i'm fine with it.

you keep saying this, yet no one did it.

awesome input guys. a lot of it is what i expected. i've actually spoken to someone who worked for subaru that i know, and she brought to my attention the kbb deal that buffalo gal mentioned. i'm going to start test driving this weekend, and see if there are any incentives. i like dave's suggestion of making the deal first, and then seeing what the trade in is worth. never thought of that. i even have a second car to trade in, mostly because i never drive it, but i've had two accidents with it, involving the front and back ends. i'm not sure if it's even worth trading in.

i see what you did there!

i know it's early, but it is pretty surprising that no numbers have been floated out there yet.

i was just wondering if we had some local experts that know how the game is played when you trade a car into a dealer. i know i could get more selling it on my own, but i'm not dealing with that bull ****. that being said, it strikes me that they try to give you lowest possible value that a site like kbb will list. my car is in very good shape, ( i always pick that as the condition when checking online...not the top choice, but second from the best). great features, clean etc. what's my best method for predicting the value, or is there any way to squeeze a bit more money out of a dealer?

good for poz. to play that long and make a fantastic living...a total success of a career for him.

for some people it's the only thing they know.

do you honestly hate everything the bills do? good lord.

well look at that.

it would probably take a year or two to really know as the new qb develops. the timing was just off in regards to a new sammy contract and getting an effective qb.

absolutely. there was no way the bills were going to pay sammy that kind of money, so at least they got a great pick in return.

wow. well...good for sammy! i appreciate it any time a guy gets paid. i can't tell if kc is going to be a perfect fit, or a potential nightmare for sammy.

the bills were moving on from tyrod, and still managed to get a very solid pick. taylor may even be in a better situation for him now. both sides can win on this one. the trade was great.

i miss the days of vinny testaverde. there's a ring i'd throw my hat into anytime.

i'm of the group that liked cordy, and really dislikes getting rid of any of the oline, (even with injuries) but i completely understand and am behind the trade. the move up to 12 this year is absolutely huge and well worth the risk.

Say wha?!

we realize that over the last year, these guys weren't taking their meds. oh...**** is going down.

there it is.

there's no way...right?

eh. i don't love it, but completely get it. if they swapped firsts, that's very, very interesting.

I would really hope this is the case, and I have a feeling it is.

That’s very ture!

he might tear it while opening the door to get into the room to sign the contract.

i think it was a success enough. i wasn't expecting much when he was brought in, and he exceeded my expectations. unfortunately he just isn't good enough, but i appreciate his time here.